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From: <nik586_at_mts.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Long cockpit / no spray skirt
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:27:47 -0500
Can you tell me in what situations you would use one of those boats that
look like a kayak, only they have a long cockpit?  Sometimes sold as a
convertible 1 or 2 man boat.  When would that boat be preferable?  When
would you use it with out a spray skirt and when with it?

Marvin
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From: Niels Blaauw <niels.blaauw_at_wanadoo.nl>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Long cockpit / no spray skirt
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:26:19 -0700
nik586_at_mts.net wrote:
> 
> Can you tell me in what situations you would use one of those boats that
> look like a kayak, only they have a long cockpit?  Sometimes sold as a
> convertible 1 or 2 man boat.  When would that boat be preferable?  When
> would you use it with out a spray skirt and when with it?
> 

In my humble opinion, these boats are "recreation" kayaks. They are
excellent for fishing, relaxing, taking out a child or a dog, swimming
from the boat, getting a suntan on your legs... Just don't use them on
rough water. Although you may find a sprayskirt to fit the cockpit, it
will never withstand any serious waves, and if it does, you will not get
it off when you capsise. You can use a sprayskirt to keep out the rain,
not much else. Still, if you intend to do your paddling on small, inland
waters, it might be the perfect boat for you. A small cockpit keeps the
waves out in rough conditions, but in any other conditions it's just a
bother.

Niels.
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From: Keith Wrage <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Long cockpit / no spray skirt
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:19:00 -0500
I know folks who use these recreational kayaks on small, inland waters - 
primarily smaller rivers (less than 100 yds wide).  They like the easy 
in/out along shorelines where it isn't always easy to land.  Of course, 
this might be a perfect place for a canoe too....

K

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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Long cockpit / no spray skirt
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:07:40 -0700
<nik586_at_mts.net> wrote:


>> Can you tell me in what situations you would use one of those boats that
look like a kayak, only they have a long cockpit?  Sometimes sold as a
convertible 1 or 2 man boat.  When would that boat be preferable?  When
would you use it with out a spray skirt and when with it? >>

Niels Blaauw's assessment of these boats is valid for the plastic,
low-freeboard types.  They are good boats for smaller, well-protected bodies
of water, but not useful in rough conditions.  In fact, a liability.  I
paddled one, sans sprayskirt, on the Intracoastal Waterway (ICW) in the Fort
Myers, FL area for several days one January, and never felt so insecure on
waters that would be tame in my spray-skirted FG boats.

However, these low-freeboard "recreational" boats should be distinguished
from the various models of folding kayaks (Klepper, Nautiraid, Folbot, etc.)
which have a sturdy spraydeck to keep out the waves.  These latter are
designed for rougher waters, but also have "open" cockpits, unlike the usual
hardshell doubles.

I should also mention that Jill Fredston has used a Necky FG boat modified
with a sliding seat for rowing that had a very "open" cockpit, fitted with a
spray skirt, to row much of the outer coast of Alaska, sections of the outer
Norway coast, and other  wild, rough waters at high latitudes.  She claims
something like 22,000 miles in such craft, and wrote a delightful book about
her adventures with husband Doug.

The recreational boats are in a lesser class, and do not belong on exposed
waters ... unless one likes swimming [grin].

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Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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