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From: <Harley1941_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Roof Rack for Folding Kayak
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:43 EDT
Gordon,
       Make sure you use the right kind of plywood for the homemade rack. I 
didn't and the brackets delamaniated and ruint the rack. Luckly I found it 
before I lost a kayak.

Paddle like this is your last day,
Ronnie

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From: <Niilus_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Rack for Folding Kayak
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:38:16 EDT
In a message dated 8/25/2003 6:06:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
bennoj_at_isomedia.com writes:


> .  I'd like to carry the K-Light without disassembling it
> for local trips.  Does anyone have any suggestions for a roof rack system
> that will carry a folding kayak well?  The Feathercraft site says any will
> work, but I was hoping for some specifics if possible.
> 

I usually cartop my Feathercraft K-1 for local trips and on occasion have 
cartopped my K-Light.  I found it easier to just use Yakima rack bars padded with 
the tubular pads sufers use for their boards.   At first I tried using the 
saddles and rollers with folding kayaks.  They work o.k. but with folding kayaks 
but I found it easier to just use the padded bars.

I find the assembly and disassembly of my1993 Feathercraft K-1 to be a time 
consuming chore, so for it's faster and easier for me to cartop it for local 
trips.  

Conversely, I find my 1996 Feathercraft K-Light quick and easy to assemble - 
about the same as installing the racks, strapping on the kayak and attaching 
the bow and stern lines.  I tend to transport the K-Light folded unless I have 
other folks along in the car and need the trunk space for other stuff.

Tony Niilus
  




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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Rack for Folding Kayak
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:36:47 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: <Niilus_at_aol.com>

> I usually cartop my Feathercraft K-1 for local trips and on occasion have
> cartopped my K-Light.  I found it easier to just use Yakima rack bars
padded with
> the tubular pads sufers use for their boards.   At first I tried using the
> saddles and rollers with folding kayaks.  They work o.k. but with folding
kayaks
> but I found it easier to just use the padded bars.

The windsurfer type pads are the way to go.  You can even use them on
factory racks if you stretch them around and secure with pieces of
continuous velcro or plastic ties (get the UV resistant type).  I too had
saddles etc. in the beginning but got rid of them.  I also have found that
using a kayak stacker (Thule and Yakima have them) works well in conjunction
with the windsurfer pads as the stacker gives you a tie on point.

Several other things to bear in mind when cartopping a foldable:

--Don't be timid in how much you cinch down the straps.  It is okay to make
them so tight that the straps indent the sponsons.

--Do be careful if going through large altitude changes enroute, say
climbing into mountains to reach some nice lake.  Same with large
temperature changes such as starting off on a cool morning but expecting to
be in hot sun and high temperatures later.  If doing either of these, then
deflate the sponsons as the air expanding in them under such circumstances
may lead to them popping.

--Figure out a way not to tie the bow and stern bumper attachments to the
carry handles on the folding kayak.  Most handles are sewn in and tying the
bumper lines to them might stress the stitches.  I find that using a short
length of webbing around the ends of the boat works well.  Run them around
the entire end and through where there the boat handles are attaches.  This
way the boat handles act only as a stopper to prevent the webbing strap from
slipping off the end of the boat.

Like Tony, I find that often enough it is just as easy to carry the folding
kayak in the trunk rather than cartop.  This is true of models that can be
assembled in under 15 minutes.

ralph diaz
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From: Benno Jones <bennoj_at_isomedia.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Rack for Folding Kayak
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:11:34 -0700
Wow it hadn't even occurred to me that you'd have the sponsons inflated
when travelling.  With the blue foam pads I've always left them empty
and then filled them when I got to where I was going.

Alas, I have not followed the conventional wisdom well and my K-Light
has been left assembled for 4 years.  I'm not sure now that I could get
it apart, although I've done my best to limit salt contact with the
frame.  It was bought when I lived in an apartment and had no space for
storage and when I moved into a house I just got lazy about breaking it
down after each trip.

Benno Jones

<snip>

> Several other things to bear in mind when cartopping a foldable:
> 
> --Don't be timid in how much you cinch down the straps.  It is okay 
to make
> them so tight that the straps indent the sponsons.
> 
> --Do be careful if going through large altitude changes enroute, say
> climbing into mountains to reach some nice lake.  Same with large
> temperature changes such as starting off on a cool morning but 
expecting to
> be in hot sun and high temperatures later.  If doing either of these, 
then
> deflate the sponsons as the air expanding in them under such 
circumstances
> may lead to them popping.
> 

<snip redux>
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From: Benno Jones <bennoj_at_isomedia.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Rack for Folding Kayak
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:08:39 -0700
A good suggestion, but I'm more or less useless when it comes to
building such things on my own. :-(

It looks like a rack and the surfer pads are the way to go for me.

Benno Jones


> Benno-
> I don't know if you'd consider building a rack.  <snip>
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