I have camped many times on the Outer Banks and have used 12 in. stakes in some areas with harder surface. While plastic bags will work I am suspect of for how long. A T shaped wood stake buried T top down with a hole and loop works much better when in softer stuff. D [demime 0.92b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
You can do the following for good sand stakes: Use a old tarp with a zip lock around the junction where all corners are gathered. Tie a 2 foot length of parachute cord to your tent stake tabs. or Gather 5-6 sour cream, salsa, old tupperware, plastic cereal bowls etc from the kitchen drawer that typically sucks those things up and poke a hole in the center and run a parachute cord through hole. Tie parachute cord to something so it won't come out, or drill a second hole and just tie a knot. I like this the best because the old cereal bowls and food containers double as a trowel for digging the 18-24 inch hole. or use local materials like funky sized chunks of driftwood, conch shells, flotsam, etc. tie parachute cord onto said item, dig hole, cover well. or use a foot long piece of driftwood and position behind log or two largish stones for a deadman. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/3/2003 1:38:09 PM Central Daylight Time, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com writes: > Use a old tarp with a zip lock around the junction where all corners are > gathered. > Tie a 2 foot length of parachute cord to your tent stake tabs. > I meant cutting a section of the tarp into 1 or 1.5 foot squares. Sorry. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
If you have lots of cord with you, just tie your stake loops to some driftwood and bury it horizontally six to twelve inches in the sand. The driftwood doesn't have to be very large -- a foot long is usually more than sufficient. Large stones work, too. The plastic grocery bags might work, as well. You could take them along as a backup. For sand stakes I use semi-tubular aluminum stakes about 10 inches long. A nice thing about this style is that the stakes nest together, so they take up relatively little room in the kayak. I also use them in snow. Be sure to dull the edges, though, so they won't fray the cord or loop. Chuck Holst -----Original Message----- From: Blankibr_at_aol.com [SMTP:Blankibr_at_aol.com] Can any of you really wise paddlers suggest something I can manufacture from materials I already have around the house that I can use as sand stakes? What if I took plastic grocery bags, filled them with sand and buried them. Would that work? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I knew you guys (collective term) would come through. I had about 10 suggestions within an hour. I am going to go with two of them: Handkerchiefs used like the sand stakes in the Campmor catalog, and using driftwood if I can find something better than my handkerchiefs. The plywood and PVC solutions sounded more rugged, but my already overflowing boat just won't allow it. I liked the container idea, but am going to try the smaller handkerchiefs. Worst comes to worst, I will tie one end off to my kayak. Thanks a lot, Brian B *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm probably going to have people finding fault with this recommendation, but it's simple: I just use the long nylon tent stakes you can buy at any Walmart. Not only do I use them for camping on sand; I also use them to hold the lines we use to mark the boundaries of a sand volleyball court. They have worked fine in both situations. I pound them down as far as I can - usually until the top of the stake is 2-3 inches below the surface of the sand. The deeper sand seems to be compacted enough to be able to hold the stake well. Of course, I don't know if this would be the best recommendation in a real hard wind, but, like I said, it's a simple solution. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tomorrow at 6:00 am I leave for a week of paddling on the North Carolina coast. Most of our camping will be on sand. This reply is probably going to come a tad late for it to be of any use, but I thought I might throw it out for future reference. I've done quite a bit of camping on sand. I generally just use whatever materials are at hand to anchor my tent. A good size driftwood log can be tied to directly. Otherwise I use smaller pieces of wood, and occasionally rocks to make a "deadman" anchor, which is tying to an object that is then buried in the ground. If you anticipate a lot of stress on your line then you can increase the effectiveness of the deadman anchor by placing a large rock or piece of driftwood on top. A large stake can likewise be secured by burying a deadman anchor across the front of it to add support. Something else you might want to consider when camping on sand is a mat that can be placed just outside the door of your tent. It gives you a barrier to leave the sand before climbing inside. Sand inside the tent can be really annoying and destructive. Scott So.Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I used to save bleach bottle bottoms to use as sand stakes. But anything you can bury, works fine. Just wet down the sand if it is too loose and fine. But I have also used the "orange shovels"- those ubiqutous orange plastic trowels. I keep a set with my tarp, in addion to regular stakes so I am ready for dirt, sand, or gravel. Marilyn Kircus *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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