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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Alaska Air luggage (again)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:21:27 -0800
Still trying to digest this pill - sorry if I'm still confused.  My poor
brains are already overwhelmed, may be somebody can make sense out of the
following.  See
http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/company/tariff/tariff_main_toc.asp
 --> Domestic (or Canadian) contract of carrige --> Section V (baggage).
Read  "Free baggage allowance" (Domestic contract of carriage):

"maximum of two pieces of checked baggage. Maximum outside linear dimensions
per piece for checked baggage is 62 in. Each ticketed passenger is allowed
only one carry-on bag plus one personal item, such as a purse, briefcase or
laptop computer. The carry-on bag can measure up to 10"H x 17"W x 24"L (25 x
43 x 61 cm).
[and now, this is interesting]
 Duffel bags (a canvas cylindrical shaped bag, folded and fastened at one
end), sea bags (a canvas cylindrical shaped bag, closed at one end by means of
draw ropes), and B-4 bags (a suitcase-type handbag of canvas with leather and
metal bindings and fittings and with expandable canvas compartments on the two
sides of the bag), whose maximum outside linear dimensions exceed 62 in., or
which weigh more than 70 lb., will be transported free in lieu of the first
and second checked pieces. Maximum weight allowed will be 50 lb. "

1) So, duffel bag or "sea bag" can exceed 70 lbs 62" despite this new
regulation? Good news for me; they want it - they'll get it :-).
2) It is not clear, whether it is 50 lb for 2 bags or for each (I hope - for
each, but may be I'm wrong)?.
2) For some reason the last sentence (50 lbs) is missing in Canadian contract
of carriage.  I don't think they are so generous and forgot to lower
cross-border baggage down to 50 lb (because table for excessive baggage has
extra charge for bags "up to 70 lb") - but may be I've got it wrong?  Btw,
overweight surcharge for cross-border flights is USD 50 per bag up to 70 lb,
and USD 75 up to 100 lb.
Alex.
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From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Alaska Air luggage (again)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:54:46 EST
In a message dated 11/11/2003 7:24:12 PM Central Standard Time, al.m_at_3web.net 
writes:


> Still trying to digest this pill - sorry if I'm still confused.  My poor
> brains are already overwhelmed, may be somebody can make sense out of the
> following.  See
> http://www.alaskaair.com/www2/company/tariff/tariff_main_toc.asp
> --> Domestic (or Canadian) contract of carrige --> Section V (baggage).
> Read  "Free baggage allowance" (Domestic contract of carriage):
> 

I'll give you an experience that happened 2 weeks ago that may or may not be 
completely to regs. I flew Alaska Airlines to CA from WA. I checked on a 
Feathercraft backpack, containing boat and paddling gear; 66 pounds. I then checked 
on a 60 pound duffel bag. Finally, I paid 50 bucks. Didn't pay a return trip 
price. They did have few people on the plane so they bumped me up to the first 
class for no charge! I'll take that deal anyday.

Rob G
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Alaska Air luggage (again)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:38:24 -0800
Thanks Rob; so far everything falls in place - $25 per each bag over 50 lb for
domestic flights (it must be 50 lb *per bag*, not per total baggage).  Since
I'm gonna fly to CA from BC/Canada, it would be US$ 50 per bag ($100 in
total), if I'll stay within 70 lb bag limit.  I would have looked into other
carriers if I knew about this hidden cost when buying the ticket.
Return trip price (on the top of the purchased ticket) they would charge if
you would take those 60 lb bags into cabin, as I understand from their Rule
(for example when items are fragile).
Alex.
PS: somebody weird is writing those rules.  Under 62" maximum dimensions they
mean not dimensions, but *total* of 3 dimensions (this is explained in another
section of the Contract of carriage).
And, (alas), I was wrong - 1 duffel bag over 70 lb doesn't solve the problem -
they allow it instead of *both* 50 lb bags, not instead each of them.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Rcgibbert_at_aol.com
  To: al.m_at_3web.net
  Cc: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net
  Sent: November 11, 2003 7:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Alaska Air luggage (again)

  I'll give you an experience that happened 2 weeks ago that may or may not be
completely to regs. I flew Alaska Airlines to CA from WA. I checked on a
Feathercraft backpack, containing boat and paddling gear; 66 pounds. I then
checked on a 60 pound duffel bag. Finally, I paid 50 bucks. Didn't pay a
return trip price. They did have few people on the plane so they bumped me up
to the first class for no charge! I'll take that deal anyday.

  Rob G
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