Sorry if this has been covered before and I missed the thread, but how many of you practice yoga as cross-training for rolling, sculling or paddling? I'd like to hear what your experience has been, what kinds of questions I should ask the instructor in advance, what positions are beneficial, etc.. I have an opportunity to take a class that is nearby, inexpensive, and does not require any major commitment. (I believe it is called, "hatha" yoga.) On the one hand, I suppose yoga in general may be good for me, regardless of the cross-training benefits. However, I am very inflexible from years of running without stretching -- which has worked fine -- and otherwise see no reason to change things now. Thanks, Emile Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Emile, I've been doing yoga for around 5 years and love it. Not only does it make my body feel good, but it is also great for preventing injuries and recovering from them. It is great cross training for any sport. Also, if everyone did yoga, the chiropractic field would almost become extinct. I never have taken a yoga class. Instead, I watched videos and read books, and from those sources, I developed my own program to fit my needs. I don't do any of the relaxation stuff. I just do the flexibility and strengthening stuff. Now it is hard to imagine life without doing yoga! Duane Strosaker Southern California www.rollordrown.com > Sorry if this has been covered before and I missed the > thread, but how many of you practice yoga as > cross-training for rolling, sculling or paddling? > > I'd like to hear what your experience has been, what > kinds of questions I should ask the instructor in > advance, what positions are beneficial, etc.. > > I have an opportunity to take a class that is nearby, > inexpensive, and does not require any major > commitment. > (I believe it is called, "hatha" yoga.) On the one > hand, I suppose yoga in general may be good for me, > regardless of the cross-training benefits. However, I > am very inflexible from years of running without > stretching -- which has worked fine -- and otherwise > see no reason to change things now. > > Thanks, > > Emile *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Emile Zen" <emilezen_at_yahoo.com> To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: November 20, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] Yoga > I'd like to hear what your experience has been, what > kinds of questions I should ask the instructor in > advance, what positions are beneficial, etc.. > > I have an opportunity to take a class that is nearby, > inexpensive, and does not require any major > commitment. > (I believe it is called, "hatha" yoga.) On the one > hand, I suppose yoga in general may be good for me, > regardless of the cross-training benefits. However, I > am very inflexible from years of running without > stretching -- which has worked fine -- and otherwise > see no reason to change things now. Yoga (speaking of positions only, without relaxation or meditation sessions) can be started from easy positions, where your body won't need much flexibility. Still, it will improve your flexibility, which (I agree with Duane) helps to heal injuries. On the other hand (and this is something you need to talk to yoga instructor about) yoga acts in a way similar to stretching. It means that it may affect you negatively if you will do some physical activities or hard work shortly after too intense yoga (i.e. "too intense" because of these physical activities, otherwise you going to be fine). Also, it will be more difficult to do yoga shortly after physical activitites. What I wanted to say was that yoga in itself is not a training for paddling, only a supplement to other training. I'm not yoga instructor, so the most modern approach can be quite different (which doesn't make it absolutely right, of course :-)... Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
alex wrote: > On the other hand (and this is something you > need to talk to yoga instructor about) yoga acts in a way similar to > stretching. It means that it may affect you negatively if you will do some > physical activities or hard work shortly after too intense yoga (i.e. "too > intense" because of these physical activities, otherwise you going to be > fine). Amen. I went to a yoga class a couple of weeks ago, then a couple of hours later went to roll practice in a C-1. Big mistake. I'm still hurting and I'm grounded for another couple of weeks with sore ligaments. Missed a slalom race last Saturday and I'll miss a paddling/camping weekend this week. But...I have not been good about stretching after being a runner for several years, and I find myself way too tight in many areas. I never liked yoga before, but I think it is really being good for me. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've been doing yoga since the early 1960's and it hasn't helped my rolling at all. It probably helps for all around conditioning flexibility and endurance which is very helpful for paddling. However I've found many paddlers that are very stiff learning rolling very easy. I believe that some people naturally take to rolling while the rest of us have to work for it. Also there are many different "hatha yogas" I do yoga similar to what Richard Hittleman taught. This is a slow - easy yoga where the postures are held for many seconds and sometimes for minutes. Ashtanga yoga, however is fast moving like calisthenics. You might want to read the Yoga Journal to get an idea of what will suit your temperment. Or you can try different styles. Harry Fleenor in Southern California At 06:55 AM 11/20/03 -0800, Emile Zen wrote: >Sorry if this has been covered before and I missed the >thread, but how many of you practice yoga as >cross-training for rolling, sculling or paddling? > >I'd like to hear what your experience has been, what >kinds of questions I should ask the instructor in >advance, what positions are beneficial, etc.. > >I have an opportunity to take a class that is nearby, >inexpensive, and does not require any major >commitment. >(I believe it is called, "hatha" yoga.) On the one >hand, I suppose yoga in general may be good for me, >regardless of the cross-training benefits. However, I >am very inflexible from years of running without >stretching -- which has worked fine -- and otherwise >see no reason to change things now. > >Thanks, > >Emile *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 21 Nov 2003 at 9:33, Harry wrote: > I've been doing yoga since the early 1960's and it hasn't helped my > rolling at all. I wonder if you've been doing it for so long that you can't notice it's effect. If someone took up yoga recently, they may notice a difference compared to before they did yoga. I know that some of the quickest learning paddlers I've met have been avid yoga enthusiasts. It's difficult to extract the effect of the yoga from the effect of the yoga enthusiasts being naturally more athletic. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yes, Michael, It has helped my kayaking overall. I can tell that. But it didn't help my roll. I can roll fairly well now after several years of practice. But I've met paddlers that aren't as flexible as me and don't do any exercise, aside from paddling. However they get the roll in the first 10 minutes. Some people are just naturals at rolling. At 05:27 PM 11/21/03 -0500, Michael Daly wrote: >On 21 Nov 2003 at 9:33, Harry wrote: > > > I've been doing yoga since the early 1960's and it hasn't helped my > > rolling at all. > >I wonder if you've been doing it for so long that you can't notice >it's effect. If someone took up yoga recently, they may notice a >difference compared to before they did yoga. > >I know that some of the quickest learning paddlers I've met have been >avid yoga enthusiasts. It's difficult to extract the effect of the >yoga from the effect of the yoga enthusiasts being naturally more >athletic. > >Mike Thank You, Harry Fleenor __________________________________ Oceanside Camera Repair 909 Aviation Blvd. #4 Manhattan Beach, CA. 90266 Phone: 310 374 6506 Email: harry_at_rolleirepairs.com Web Site: http://www.rolleirepairs.com/ 35 years Rolleiflex repair experience including 15 years in the Rolleiflex factory service center. Repairing: Rolleiflex TLR, Rolleiflex SL66, Rollei 35, Rollei SL35, Rollei A110, Rollei SL26, Rollei A26. __________________________________ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael Daly" <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com> wrote: >I know that some of the quickest learning paddlers I've met have been avid yoga enthusiasts. Hear, hear! I've had rank novices doing low brace turns, sculling braces, hanging draws, and forward strokes with beautiful torso rotation at the end of an afternoon. I think they learned so quickly because they had great body sense and flexibility due mostly to yoga and pilates. I was amazed, I had to repeat very little, and had to quickly think of new things to teach them. Shawn Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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