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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:52:15 +1100
G'Day,

Our Deal Island trip is approaching and there is enough fresh water on the
island to drink but not to wash.

Can anyone suggest ways of remaining socially acceptable over periods
greater than a week, while using seawater to bathe and wash gear?

All the best, PeterO
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From: Wayne Smith <wsmith16_at_snet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:02:58 -0800 (PST)
Peter,

I don't know if you have the same product in
Australia, but here in the US, there is a dish
detergent called "Joy" which works in salt water. Dr.
Bronner's Magic Soaps work OK, too; you just have to
use a lot more of them than you would in fresh water.

If you don't have either of those prodicts available,
you might be able to find sea soap at a marine store.
It doesn't work as well as the other two things I
mentioned, but it will keep everyone closer together
than nothing at all.

Have fun!

Wayne


--- PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> G'Day,
> 
> Can anyone suggest ways of remaining socially
> acceptable over periods
> greater than a week, while using seawater to bathe
> and wash gear?
> 
> All the best, PeterO
> 

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From: John March <jsmarch_at_acpub.duke.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:17:02 -0500
REI sells camp suds that work in salt water.

>using seawater to bathe
> > and wash gear?
> >
> >
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From: <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:19:40 -0500
> Can anyone suggest ways of remaining socially acceptable over periods
> greater than a week, while using seawater to bathe and wash gear?

This may not be suitable for a trip of a week or more, but on shorter
camping trips (usually not kayaking, but other camping) I take along a
supply of baby wipes.  It's amazing what a wipe to the face, neck, chest
and arm pits can do to refresh you.

Rick
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From: Steve Brown <steve_at_brown-web.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:14:48 -0800
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> PeterO asked:
>Can anyone suggest ways of remaining socially acceptable over periods
>greater than a week, while using seawater to bathe and wash gear?

We have had decent results (better than staying dirty) with using "Dr
Bonners" liquid soaps (or magic soaps).
After using saltwater to get the major crud of, 90%+ alcohol which can be
purchased at most drug stores, can be used to sponge off all over (careful
around face). The alcohol bath absolutely stops stink.

Steve Brown
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From: Matt <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:59:16 -0500
I've used a product called Sea Savon (Salt Water Shampoo and Body Bath).
Last I knew it was imported from Germany by Davis Instruments (I stocked up
and as it doesn't take much to create a lather I haven't had to buy any
lately) and would likely be found at Marine stores. It is advertised as
neutral in pH (7) and- Biodegradable. It works really well for bathing in
salt water. It even leaves what hair I have left very soft and silky (rather
that stiff and course like salt water itself does). I've tried some
waterless products but have preferred the Sea Savon even though baths in NW
and BC salt water can be pretty bracing.

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:20:43 +1100
Matt wrote: -
>'ve used a product called Sea Savon (Salt Water Shampoo and Body Bath).
Last I knew it was imported from Germany by Davis Instruments ......
It works really well for bathing in salt water.

G'Day Matt and Paddlewise,

Thanks for the reply. I had already left for Bass Strait when it came
through and used a locally available saltwater soap. It worked quite well -
none of my companions complained and there wasn't the usual ring of empty
seats surrounding us at the lical cafe when we got back to civilisation:~)
However it didn't produce much in the way of suds and my hair was a bit
stiff.
So I'll be glad to buy some of the Sea Savon product and give that a go. One
of the major things to watch for was finding really clean sea water. being a
city boy i thought all water in Sydney Harbour would be dirty and water in
Bass
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saltweater cleaning - A question of social responsibility
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:35:30 +1100
Matt wrote: -
>I've used a product called Sea Savon (Salt Water Shampoo and Body Bath).
>Last I knew it was imported from Germany by Davis Instruments ......
>It works really well for bathing in salt water.

G'Day Matt and Paddlewise,

Apologies for the earlier incomplete message. My hand slipped on the send
key. Here's the full message.

Thanks for the reply. I had already left for the Kent Islands in Bass Strait
when it came through and used a locally available saltwater soap. It worked
quite well - none of my companions complained and there wasn't the usual
ring of empty tables surrounding us at the local cafe when we got back to
civilisation:~) However it didn't produce much in the way of suds and my
beard was a bit stiff. So I'll be keen to buy some of the Sea Savon product
you suggested and give that a go.

One of the things that made a big difference was finding really clean sea
water. Being a city boy I thought all water in Sydney Harbour would be dirty
and water in the middle of Bass Strait would be pristine and clean. Not so!
My clothes cleaning efforts were occasionally sabotaged by fish spawning,
remnants of (shark?) feeding frenzies and seaweed debris. But on the whole
the water in Bass Strait is much cleaner than Sydney harbour!

All the best, PeterO
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