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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Are USA<-> Canada flights internatonal?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:14:51 -0800
I wonder if anybody has any comments on the following.
Alaska Air has International, Domestic and Canadian contracts of carriage.
According to their International contract, it allows 2 checked-in bags, 70 lbs
each :
 "The maximum weight allowance for each piece is 70 lbs and the maximum
outside linear dimensions of the first and second pieces are 62in each.
Maximum weight allowance will be 50 lbs. "  (Last phrase falls out of content,
- either it is 70 or 50, hell knows).

For Domestic (all flight is within USA) or Canadian flights limit is 50 lbs
per bag.
They do not have "North-American contract of carriage".

I'm still wondering why did they charge me $25 on my way back (only) from San
Diego, USA to Vancouver, Canada for excessive weight (wet folding kayak) of 67
lbs bag.

Both Domestic and Canadian contracts have overweight charge from $USD 50 up -
then why $25? There is $25 extra weight charge for travel between "points in
U.S./Canada and Mexico", though; but neither San Diego or Vancouver are in
Mexico, or have I missed anything? :-)

On my question - why didn't anybody care to charge extra on my way from
Vancouver to San Diego (kayak was dry, but food cans were plentiful), - the
check-in girl in San Diego responded with purely women logic: "Would you like
to be charged twice, or what?" :-).  I regret that have thrown away their
receipt - perhaps I should have sent it to their office and ask for comments -
I suspect they don't know what they are doing.
Alex.
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From: Carey Parks <cparks_at_fuse.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Are USA<-> Canada flights internatonal?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:38:14 -0500
> "Would you like to be charged twice, or what?" :-).  I regret that have
thrown away their
> receipt - perhaps I should have sent it to their office and ask
> for comments -
> I suspect they don't know what they are doing.
> Alex.

Alex,

The girl is right - take the money and run! There is no logic in the airline
charges. They just need to get enough money from enough people to keep
flying. The systems they come up with are so complex and disconnected that
you can't try to reverse engineer an underlying rule. That and each employee
can pretty much do what they darn well please to you when it comes right
down to it. For example, if I fly from my city, Cincinnati, to some city, it
costs me MORE than if I drive to Dayton (40 miles) get on the SAME PLANE,
ride the plane to Cincinnati, and take the same trip (and return.)

Also, remember that airline employees are people too, and if you treat them
nice, they treat you nice. If you don't, they don't. As they say, you catch
more with honey than vinegar. You are aware that the rings of Saturn are
really made of lost airline luggage, aren't you?

Cheers,

Carey
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From: Bob Denton <bdenton_at_soytek.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Are USA<-> Canada flights internatonal?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:03:56 -0500
 Take a look at today's and yesterday's Dilbert!

cu
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