Sorry to keep this going. I know some of you must be getting tired of it but the kayakathon organizer just updated his bio and it included the following statement..... "I have zero kayaking experience. " Give me a break Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: "Rev. Bob Carter" <revkayak_at_aptalaska.net> > > Someone is trying to put together a marathon kayak race mostly on the outer > coast of Alaska. It looks like a disaster in the making. You can check it out > at: > > www.kayakathon.com > > I rolled my eyes reading their web site. I laughed through a lot of it. I can't believe this guy is serious. >From the website: "We want athletes, but we also highly value interesting characters. Making this a show that people love to watch is a must. We may ask competitors to be openly emotional and perhaps play act to a certain extent. The success of such a grueling competition will need to be spiced up for the television audience and spice it up we will! " Sounds pretty nutty to me. Just what the reality TV wannabe stars and viewers relish. Also from the website: "If we don't succeed in selling the production, the prizes could be zero. " If this takes place, participants may be happy enough with walking away with their lives. "Nov. 15, 2003 I just returrned from Alaska. A 28' aluminum vessel with a diesel engine and a jet drive was purchased for $45,700. The vessel does over 20 nautical miles per hour and will be used as a support vessel. In the event that this production doesn't receive additional finanacial support, this will be the sole support vessel, however I'm hopeful that a larger vessel can be added, so the film crew won't be pitching a tent every night." Well, that's mighty generous of him. Wonder what he's going to do when his paddlers are scattered over 100+ miles of rough coastline and a storm is brewing. btw, the organizer appears to live in Hawaii. I looked for some kind of minimum qualifications and if it's on this site, I couldn't find it. But I did find something about digging for clams and berry picking (they will provide shovels and berry bags but no fishing tackle). Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I looked for some kind of minimum qualifications and if it's on > this site, I couldn't find it. But I did find something about > digging for clams and berry picking (they will provide shovels > and berry bags but no fishing tackle). > > Jackie Yes, pretty weak looking effort. The qualifications are you have to bring your own kayak and other equipment. So, people who already own the right type of kayak and equipment and know how to use it will self-select out, because they know what can happen there. What does that leave? Oh, and poor camera crew. We wouldn't want them to have to camp now, would we? Boat for camera crew first, gear for paddlers never! Sheesh! Carey *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> But I did find something about > digging for clams and berry picking (they will provide shovels > and berry bags but no fishing tackle). For whom - for kayakers as a part of their dayly ration? :-) A sort of exercise after some 30 miles racing day. Sounds like Survivors episode to me. I know only one person who does autonomous mutliweek trips, partially paddling, partially sailing his kayak, feeding on berrries and fish, and is quite good at it But he is a professional hobo, has a lot of time and is not in a hurry - stops where he wants and for as long as he wants. Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Just finished reading through www.kayakathon.com. The dream of kayaking through Alaskan waters sounds wonderful -- gorgeous scenery, pristine waters, wildlife, adventure, ..... The reality may not be so wonderful. This is scary. The organizer may not know what will be involved. It worries me to think that the popularity of Reality TV may lead to this event actually happening. Interested participants need to do their homework. I haven't seen much of the 'course' myself. Some kayaking. Watching scenery during multiple floatplane trips. Watching huge waves crash over the bows of the state ferries. (These were the protected, Inside, waters too.) Pictures and videos. Listened to friends who fished the waters all along the coast and/or were involved in Search and Rescue situations. Concerns: Has he seen the Outside waters, or, better yet, been in them in his new cruiser or a kayak? Has he actually scouted anything from the water? Easy beach landings may be few and far between for much of this 'course', with a lot of nasty surf landings to shake up kayakers and shred kayaks. Finding enough room for multiple tents could be interesting in many of these places too. How will he monitor several kayaks from one motorboat? Is the organizer using more than the Gazetteer to plan this trip? Hope he has real nautical charts and (multiple) tide charts too. There are many athletes who can do the long miles he has scheduled, but I worry that he is under-guesstimating at times. The miles can really add up if you have the current or tide against you, or the wind in your face. There are towns and villages listed, with a note that participants can replenish supplies in them. Maybe. Many of the village stores sell only the basics, not the items that weight- and space-conscious kayakers will be looking for. The prices are much higher as well. (That is assuming there is even a store in town!) Few will cater to kayaker needs. Some good looking areas for camping near the towns will be private property or otherwise off-limits to campers. Campgrounds may not be easy to get to, if they even exist. Clam digging is part of the competition. Hope they don't plan to eat them. Summer is 'red tide' time, with PSP a constant threat. (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) Berries may be available, but bears could also be picking them. Adds a bit of excitement for the cameras, right? The start of the rainy season may coincide with the race. How bad does the weather have to be to keep them on shore? Our son declared that all participants should be nominated for Darwin Award Honorable Mentions -- in advance! My fear is that someone may even 'earn' a real Darwin. Coming out of Lurker mode again. Sorry to run on so long. Gladys Carter (Bob's part-time kayak partner) in Southeast Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Paddlewisers, I looked through the www.kayakathon.com website with much interest, because I'd love to compete in a multi-day, coastal kayak racing event. However, aside from safety issues and all of the TV hoopla, over a month of around 50 mile days, even with an occasional day off, sounds like a grind. A week or two of it could be fun, but even if one could average 4-5 knots the whole time, that's a lot of 10-13 hours days of paddling. Not even the Tour de France is that grueling, and adventure races are typically only 4-10 days. With drive time to and from the event, and doing the event, people would be looking at taking 1 1/2 months off. Very few working people can't make those kind of arrangements. My guess is this event is way over dreamed, but then again, people can be surprising. I'd like to see how it turns out. Duane Strosaker Southern California *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
alex <al.m_at_3web.net> wrote: > > I know only one person who does autonomous mutliweek trips, partially paddling, partially sailing his kayak, feeding on berrries and fish, and is quite good at it But he is a professional hobo, has a lot of time and is not in a hurry - stops where he wants and for as long as he wants. >> Gotta be Timo Noko, yes? -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yes. A DIY type. Kayak, wet suite, speargun - you name it. I almost believe when he says that can make not just a spare paddle, but a spare kayak out of seashore driftwood and garbage :-). Some his inventions are hard to reproduce, though. I, for one, can't figure out how could he make his wind-operated desalinator work - PUR-06 unit needs susbtantial effort to pump. Not hard, but not too easy anyway. I prefer to carry Dromedary bags (has solved the problem of leaky cap and flip-up nozzle, btw). Alex. > Gotta be Timo Noko, yes? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 20 Jan 2004 at 12:38, alex wrote: > I, for one, can't figure > out how could he make his wind-operated desalinator work - PUR-06 unit He has a picture of it on his web site: http://www.kolumbus.fi/timo.noko/purpur.jpg Not obvious from the photo how it works, though he says it can use bicycle pedals as well. There seems to be a crank at the windmill hub, but I can't make out where it goes. Pretty big contraption for a kayak. Rube Goldberg would be proud. The wind there looks pretty stiff - that might help, but I have doubts about making a wind powered desalinator that is effective. When I looked into automating desalination (none too seriously), my back-of-the-envelope calculations told me I couldn't power it with a reasonable sized solar panel and battery combo. Wind is potentially better than solar in terms of energy density, but still... Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Not obvious from the photo how it works, though he says it can use > bicycle pedals as well. There seems to be a crank at the windmill > hub, but I can't make out where it goes. I've seen this photo, and can't see where it goes either. Maybe a crank of proper size will achieve required torque, I don't know. PUR06 pump is harder to press than a small bicycle pump. Wind must be strong and tripod anchored pretty well to sustain it. >Pretty big contraption for > a kayak. Rube Goldberg would be proud. This is one of his "double use" ideas. Tripod looks like fishing poles (or spare compostie rods from foldable kayak), anyway something that can be completely dismantled. Doesn't appeal to me when I move my camp everyday, but OK for a 2-days stopover. > When I looked into automating desalination (none too seriously), my > back-of-the-envelope calculations told me I couldn't power it with a > reasonable sized solar panel and battery combo. I don't think reasonalby sized solar panels and battery will be enough. 12V electrified PUR35 needs a lot of current according to specs, and PUR06 will still need a lot. After I've got an old discounted 06, I thought to get an old 35 (without electric drive) - 1 hour of daily pumping with 35 is.. well... acceptable on the last week of 3-weeks trip without any freshwater nearby, or on unexpected delay caused by the weather or anything else. (2 weeks water supply can be carried in Drom bags). But 3.5 hours with PUR06 - not to my liking, thanks :-). So I just try to keep it down to 2 weeks (or paddle closer to freshwater sources, which is often feasible in my area). Alex. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Does anyone on the list personally know the paddlers whose names are mentioned in the website for this 'event''? Are these really people well-established in the paddling world? If so, it would be interesting to hear their take on this plan. K *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Keith Wrage wrote: > Does anyone on the list personally know the paddlers whose names are > mentioned in the website for this 'event''? > > Are these really people well-established in the paddling world? If so, > it would be interesting to hear their take on this plan. The only names I've seen are Oscar Chalupsky (10-time winner of the Molokai Channel race), Joe Glickman (frequent long-distance race competitor) and Brandon and Heather Nelson (eco-adventure racers, winners of the Lake Michigan Challenge race written up in Sea Kayaker). Only the last two seem to be planning to race this one. Don't personnally know any of them. All these guys are experienced, but I think this race is more "EXTREME!!" than even they have done. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
After considering the matter I think it could work if the sponsors, camera folks, and participants all adopted a Circus Maximus mentality. In other words no rescues and we film your demise for the entertainment of the worlds viewers. Otherwise the whole show is sheer twaddle from beginning to end. The poor man should have a stiff drink and get hold of himself; or put that bottle away for a bit, and come to his senses. Probably the latter, although the word deranged has crossed my mind. Perhaps his friends should offer good counsel. Alaska atlas indeed! KMN *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Our son declared that all participants in this race should be nominated for Darwin Award Honorable Mentions* -- in advance! My fear is that someone may even 'earn' a real Darwin. Staying out of the race Bob *For those unaware The Darwin Awards honor those who improve the gene pool...by removing themselves from it. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi, Down south (back east, Pennsylvania), if we made plans for such an event on the east coast, I believe we would have to inform the Coast Guard of our plans. This would be important up where you are, since it would be the USCG that would get the call to send helicopters and boats to hunt for paddlers attempting to become crab bait. Alaska State authorities should also have an interest in this race. If you want to avoid the considerable likelihood that paddlers involved would make paddlers in general look like idiots, and perhaps provoke rule making exercises by Government-- just keep those fellows informed about the idiotic plans being made for the use of their rescue services. What does the Release Waiver for the event have to say? Chuck Sutherland *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Chuck wrote: > Down south (back east, Pennsylvania), if we made plans for such an > event on the east coast, I believe we would have to inform the Coast > Guard of our plans. This would be important up where you are, since it > would be the USCG that would get the call to send helicopters and > boats to hunt for paddlers attempting to become crab bait. > I have seriously considered letting the Coast Guard know about the race. If they have to spend a lot of time on rescueing the participants of this race and at the same time a fishing boat goes down crucial moments maybe lost and someone may be lost at sea. A good friend sunk his 55 foot fishing boat near here several winters ago and the CG got top him just in time! If they had to split their rescue resources then he might not have make it. By the way the race is scheduled to come through my home of Petersburg. I will offer free hot showers and trauma counseling for the survivors Safe paddling Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It might be significant that the deadline for the organizer to decide and announce if the race will happen this year is April Fools day. The fine print read: "The race coordinator fully expects to determine whether the race will take place no later than April 1, 2004" I know of no paddlers who have fully paddled the coast between Cordova and Icy Strait. I know of a few who were thinking of or planning to try to paddle this section of coast but don't recall hearing of any that succeeded. Does anybody on this list know of anyone who has succeeded in paddling this section of coast. I wonder if Oscar Chalupski and Joe Glickman know their good names are being used (as people who have offered support) to promote this fantasy race. The pace that would need to be maintained to meet the time and mileage expected is, to my knowledge, totally unreasonable for the best of paddlers given the logistics, location and weather likely to be encountered in this area. I wonder if the organizers know of the long stretches of tidal glacier ice walls (rather than beaches) that will be encountered between Cordova and Yakatat. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Matt wrote: > It might be significant that the deadline for the organizer to decide and > announce if the race will happen this year is April Fools day. The fine > print read: "The race coordinator fully expects to determine whether the > race will take place no later than April 1, 2004" > Maybe this is a hoax. I hope so. I would rather be fooled by such a joke than to see a fool's dream put a bunch of fellow seakayakers in peril. Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Keith Wrage wrote: > Does anyone on the list personally know the paddlers whose names are > mentioned in the website for this 'event''? The organizer also listed 'Joe O'Blenis in Kamloops B.C. is very interested in competing' Joe is a frequent poster on the kayakforum.com Techniques BBS. I'm hoping he'll sound in there. Shawn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I think you have all been had! Steve Brown -----Original Message----- Sorry to keep this going. I know some of you must be getting tired of it but the kayakathon organizer just updated his bio and it included the following statement..... "I have zero kayaking experience. " Give me a break Bob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Matt posted (snip): >>It might be significant that the deadline for the organizer to decide and announce if the race will happen this year is April Fools day...I know of no paddlers who have fully paddled the coast between Cordova and Icy Strait...I wonder if Oscar Chalupski and Joe Glickman know their good names are being used (as people who have offered support) to promote this fantasy race.<< I think with proper support, the cooperation of the local authorities, and some kind of system for forced downtimes in marginal weather, it could be a great race. This would require above-average organizational skills, experienced race marketers, and lots of money for support crews, etc. These attributes seem lacking to say the least from what I've read. (I'll be up in that area in a couple of years hopefully, but taking it slow and solo in a new boat). The February Sea Kayaker has a great spotlight article on the Molokai race by Glickman. Conditions were a wee bit tense by the sounds of it (20 foot swell, rebound waves five miles out, wind), but everyone was taken care of when needed. I had been slowly working with Eastern Outdoors to write an article about the Fundy Adventure race tragedy a couple of years ago spoken about here on PW. I got tied down with the organizer over his legal hassles. I never push on these articles. I had wanted to concentrate on telling the story from the perspective of the paddler who died, and give the race organizers a chance to tell their side of the story. As it turned out, Explore magazine ran a full story without the race organizer's blessing co-opting my efforts. The article was rather searing in spots. One common thread with respect to race events that go wrong is the lack of due diligence on the part of the organizers. I doubt the guy wanting to promote the race in Alaska even knows what those words mean. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > I'd be interested to hear what the Coasties say. > Carey > > The local CG officer flipped out when I showed him the web site. He was > deeply concerned not only that kayakers may get in serious trouble but > that > his fellow CG members will have to risk their lives in the rescue. He is > notifying the Coast Guard Commander in Juneau. Be fore warned, this is a bit of a rant.... I've never been in a race, much less worked one, sponsored one, or anything of the sort. BUT, I can't help thinking that "if" I were to organize such an event, I'd get local authorities (Coast Guard, Police, other Rescue personnel, local media, etc etc) involved at the outset. Not just for the sake of safety, but for advice, endorsement, goodwill, etc. It boggles my mind that the guy got as far as he has and the Coast Guard is apparently completely unaware of it. What would he do if he got further down the road, and suddenly discovered that it's illegal to land at his desired camping spots, or something like that? I'm not familiar with Alaska, but here in SE Virginia, there are National Wildlife Refuges where you can land but not camp, military property where you can't even get within 100 yards of shore, so on and do forth. I'd also have previously pitched the concept to the people I would be trying to sell it to. I sure wouldn't undertake such a project without some sort of feeling that networks "might" be interested, at least in the concept. You've got to take risks to get big rewards, but it's got to be a "risk" not a "gamble". I don't get cable TV, but on the regular networks, I've never even seen the reputable, well established races aired on TV (or am I just missing them?) If the Water Tribe race, or the Texas Safari, or others can't get the air time, why would an inexperienced, first time, upstart shoestring budget race like this one expect to hit the jackpot? OTOH, maybe the guy actually will make some money with this. Afterall, what's the grand prize these days on America's Funniest Home Video's - $100,000? I shouldn't have said that... if this race does proceed, I share then feeling that the results won't be funny. Also, did you notice the stuff about non-paddling competition? Poker for paddling time?????? If I'm watching a paddling race, I want to see other paddling competition, if there is to be competition other than the race. Perhaps a rolling competition, or how long you can hold a sculling brace, or how long you can stand erect in your cockpit before falling, or something kayak related. But poker for time..... sorry, not interested in the slightest!!!! Just my opinions. Sorry for the rant, but I "do" feel better now, thank you very much. Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Sorry to keep this going. I know some of you must be getting tired of it > but > the kayakathon organizer just updated his bio and it included the > following > statement..... > "I have zero kayaking experience. " I e-mailed him a couple days ago asking what his personal qualifications were to undertake such a project. Here's an excerpt from his response.... "I have never made a film, I have never promoted a race. I have zero background in this field. I also had zero knowledge about building boats and houses when I first started out. I built my first 40 foot commercial fishing vessel at the age of 26 and my first house when I was 29. I was also very actively involved in putting a group of fishermen together to buy a processing plant. I can't do this on my own and I don't expect to. What I do have a lot of experience in, is hiring the right people to get a job done. I also have a ton of experience with the ocean. I have a very strong record as a successful commercial salmon fisherman." Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson said: > > Sorry to keep this going. I know some of you must be > getting tired of > it....... > I e-mailed him a couple days ago asking what his personal > qualifications were to undertake such a project. Here's an > excerpt from his response.... > > "I have never made a film, I have never promoted a race. I > have zero background in this field. I also had zero > knowledge about building boats and houses when I first > started out. I built my first 40 foot commercial fishing > vessel at the age of 26 and my first house when I was 29. I > was also very actively involved in putting a group of > fishermen together to buy a processing plant. I can't do > this on my own and I don't expect to. What I do have a lot > of experience in, is hiring the right people to get a job > done. I also have a ton of experience with the ocean. > I have a very strong record as a successful commercial salmon > fisherman." Rick coupled with the deadline date of April 1, I have to agree with several others. You've been had!! This has to be an April Fools Joke. Steve Holtzman Southern CA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Rick coupled with the deadline date of April 1, I have to agree with > several others. You've been had!! Steve, yeah, maybe. But maybe not. Regardless, it's been (in my opinion) an interesting topic, and it's brought to the forefront some good thoughts and discussion about the possibility of such a race. But, it's not like I was actually thinking about racing or anything, so I certainly don't feel "fooled" or "had". In fact, I thank him for being the catalyst for the discussion, particularly in light of the fact that in the process, I've learned a couple things about the Coast of Alaska, so it was worth being fooled if it is in fact a hoax. In that respect, I guess the joke is on him. BTW - I suppose I'm prone to April Fools jokes... I was born at 11:55 pm on March 31. Thank God for those extra 5 minutes!! :-) Rick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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