Re: [Paddlewise] Raingutters or gutterless mounts

From: <Rcgibbert_at_aol.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:49:24 EST
In a message dated 2/5/2004 2:19:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
michaeldaly_at_rogers.com writes:


> Don't bother - we need good design, not a step backwards.  What we 
> need to do is convince more auto makers to add built-in rack mounts.  
> Some Swedish cars have these as do several VW models.  
> 

As much as I would like to see quality rack design available for all cars it 
may not happen. I drive a nicel little Subaru because that maker makes a car 
(yuck...sorry truck) with a good rack system.

There is another possibility. And that is to utilize the gutterless brackets 
found on police/fire/ems vehicles for affixing lightbars to rooftops. These 
brackets are not made for the endlessly changing variety of autos out there but 
they do exist for cars not served by Yakima or Thule. In my case I had a 
company supplied Crown Victoria and  no personal vehicle. I purchased standard 
towers, bars, saddles, etc from Yakima and  2 sets of gutterless roof brackets and 
high tensile strength stainless steel bolts. As the car could not keep my 
personal gear on it was a small matter of a 5 minute installation every weekend 
or when I paddled.

Any Law Enforcement supply store will sell you lightbar gutterless mounts for 
25 or 30 bucks a pair. Manufacturers such as Code 3, Whelen or Federal Signal 
offer the greatest diversity in autos served. Europeans can look for Vama 
(Spanish) mounts. A good on line source is Galls (www.galls.com).

I used this system for 2 and a half years and drove my kayaks all over the 
Northwest with no problems. However, you assume all the risk for doing so. The 
companies manufacture these brackets for lightbars on automobiles and light 
trucks, not 60 pound seakayaks. Nevertheless, lightbar designs do contribute as 
little as 1% drag and up to 20% drag on speeding cop cars so they are made very 
strong. If you would like further details feel free to email me back.

Rob G
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