On 30 Jan 2004 at 15:27, John Fereira wrote: > Even "Survivor" always holds it challenges in warm climate venues. > Having a bunch of half naked people running around on beaches would > get better ratings than a bunch of young people in thick parkas on > "Survivor Greenland". What's interesting is the difference between the US version and the original UK version of the show. The Brits sent a bunch of competitors to Canada for one show. They dropped them in the wilderness just north of Frontenac Provincial Park (just north, in turn, of Kingston, ON). They chose the spring, which put them into: Prime mosquito and blackfly season. Very cold lakes and rivers. Warm days and cold nights. etc. They had to canoe their way to freedom - but they didn't know how to canoe. The competitors weren't chosen for their cleavage and they barely survived. Them yankee survivors are such wimps by comparison. :-) Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:46 PM 2/1/2004 -0500, Michael Daly wrote: >On 30 Jan 2004 at 15:27, John Fereira wrote: > > > Even "Survivor" always holds it challenges in warm climate venues. > > Having a bunch of half naked people running around on beaches would > > get better ratings than a bunch of young people in thick parkas on > > "Survivor Greenland". > >What's interesting is the difference between the US version and the >original UK version of the show. The Brits sent a bunch of >competitors to Canada for one show. They dropped them in the >wilderness just north of Frontenac Provincial Park (just north, in >turn, of Kingston, ON). They chose the spring, which put them into: > >Prime mosquito and blackfly season. >Very cold lakes and rivers. >Warm days and cold nights. >etc. > >They had to canoe their way to freedom - but they didn't know how to >canoe. The competitors weren't chosen for their cleavage and they >barely survived. Which series has been a greater commercial success? The Brit version or the U.S. version? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 2 Feb 2004 at 10:50, John Fereira wrote: > Which series has been a greater commercial success? The Brit version > or the U.S. version? I have no idea. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> On 2 Feb 2004 at 10:50, John Fereira wrote: > > Which series has been a greater commercial success? The Brit version > or the U.S. version? Is commercial success ("good for business") the measure of the worth of all things? Carey *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 02:09 PM 2/2/2004 -0500, Carey Parks wrote: > > On 2 Feb 2004 at 10:50, John Fereira wrote: > > > > Which series has been a greater commercial success? The Brit version > > or the U.S. version? > >Is commercial success ("good for business") the measure of the worth of all >things? No. I don't think anyone is claiming that it is. I was adding my two cents on the speculation that the guy planning the kayak race in Alaska was trying to create a "Survivor" like reality tv show. In other words, presumably commercial success *is* his primary goal. Based on that premise, I offered some ideas on how to faciliate a potentially more successful endeavor. IMHO, there are a couple of things that make Survivor so popular. First, is that the contestants have some sort of appeal. Most are either young and sexy or they quickly show themselves to be someone that everyone loves to hate. Holding the event at a venue where the participants are likely going to wear fewer clothes is likely going to draw a bigger audience than if the contestants are always bundled up in heavy parkas. The other thing I think makes Survivor successful is that, for the most part, the contestants are just regular people, making easier for the audience to identify with them easier. For the Alaska race as described, the level of skill required to complete the race, is likely held by a very small percentage of the worlds population. I think someone mentioned one particular section that may not have been by anyone with the possible exception of Paul Caffyn. I'm not suggesting that the race be structured such that is resembles Battle of the Network Stars, but making it so difficult that basically a handful of people could even complete the race isn't likely going to make it interesting to the general population. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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