>>>From: "Joan" <JSPINNER_at_peoplepc.com> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Separating coaming from cockpit In reflecting on what I could have done I figured what I think I'd do is to use Mike's idea but one step further. Cut the seat away where the it starts to curve then glass down like cheek straps to the bottom of the boat to leave glass pillars to support the coaming. Use them to fasten the back band and make a foam seat that conforms to the shape left.<<< So is the idea here that in these one-piece seat/coaming arrangements, the seat (presumably supported by the bottom of the kayak) acts like a brace to keep any weight that bears downward on the coaming (at least on the sides, since that's the only part of the coaming that would derive any support from this -- the front and rear are unsupported except by the rigidity of the coaming rim) from being supported solely by the glass at the top and sides of the boat? What do you mean by "cheek straps"? (I gather that you're suggesting attaching the sides directly to the bottom of the boat with these)? Thanks! Evan Dallas Woodinville, Washington *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Evan Dallas" <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com> wrote: >> I've got an old Eddyline Calypso with a cracked fiberglass seat bottom. [snip] to fix it right, I need to remove the seat. The problem is that the seat bottom, seat sides and coaming are all one piece, so the only way to take it out would be to separate the coaming from the cockpit (or saw through the sides, then patch them back together again.>> Evan, I have dealt with problems similar to this in a Wind Dancer. The seat/coaming assembly is all one piece. You have two choices: 1. Use a hammer and chisel and elbow grease to chip out all the old filler that 'adheres' the assembly to the deck. Remove the assembly and patch the split, using a couple layers of 6 oz glass and __epoxy__ on the __bottom__ of the seat to hold it together. Maybe some roving, too. Reattach the coaming/seat assembly to the deck, using glass/epoxy. This is an awful job -- been there, done that. 2. is easier. 2. Cut the seat from the coaming about halfway down the tangs that connect the two. Patch the seat as above, and then use a piece of 1/8 inch polycarbonate sheet and some SS hardware (flathead machine screws, finishing washers, blind nuts) on each side to reattach the seat to the tangs. If you want, I'll send you a photo of a similar job I did on my Wind Dancer. It is critical to use epoxy and to prepare the surfaces well. Polyester resin is a terrible adhesive compared to epoxy ... speaking from personal experience. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I think you are right. The deck needs support and the seat gives it that as it is now. When I pulled the old seat out of my Gulfstream there were those supporting straps of glass that go from the coaming to the hull, where they are glassed in so that they are attached at the top and bottom. I am suggesting that you essentially use what is left of the seat to make similar supports. The "cheek straps" is a term used by Current Designs. I assume it has to do with their position relative to the paddler's behind. Joan So is the idea here that in these one-piece seat/coaming arrangements, the seat (presumably supported by the bottom of the kayak) acts like a brace to keep any weight that bears downward on the coaming (at least on the sides, since that's the only part of the coaming that would derive any support from this -- the front and rear are unsupported except by the rigidity of the coaming rim) from being supported solely by the glass at the top and sides of the boat? What do you mean by "cheek straps"? (I gather that you're suggesting attaching the sides directly to the bottom of the boat with these)? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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