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From: Tony <tony_at_tesar-reynes.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:09:53 -0500
My old OR rain hat gave up its ghost recently and I need replacement. It has
kept me dry in many places that I would love to go back and visit.The first
thought was to buy another one. Then I started looking on the web. The
Kokatat Nor'wester looked nice but pricey.

I wear a rain hat on my kayak, hiking, etc. I wear glasses and like a wide
brim. Any suggestions out there to justify the price or find a good
alternative.

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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:39:45 -0700
Tony said:
> 
> I wear a rain hat on my kayak, hiking, etc. I wear glasses 
> and like a wide brim. Any suggestions out there to justify 
> the price or find a good alternative.

I personally prefer a Tilley. They have a dual strap that totally prevents
it from blowing off, it's cool, floats, and has a lifetime warranty and is
insured against loss.

The only drawback is that a few of the younger kayakers in our local club
say you have to be over 50 to "qualify" to wear a Tilley.

Steve Holtzman
Southern CA
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From: K.Stevens <K_Stevens_at_telus.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:57:08 -0700
You should stick with the OR hat.

Had a Tilley, they are too heavy and not completely waterproof or
breathable.

Sorry Steve...

Kirby

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Holtzman
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat


Tony said:
>
> I wear a rain hat on my kayak, hiking, etc. I wear glasses
> and like a wide brim. Any suggestions out there to justify
> the price or find a good alternative.

I personally prefer a Tilley. They have a dual strap that totally prevents
it from blowing off, it's cool, floats, and has a lifetime warranty and is
insured against loss.

The only drawback is that a few of the younger kayakers in our local club
say you have to be over 50 to "qualify" to wear a Tilley.

Steve Holtzman
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:22:21 -0400
On 12 Apr 2004 at 11:57, K.Stevens wrote:

> Had a Tilley, they are too heavy and not completely waterproof or
> breathable.

Tilley Unbearables, as I call them.  Since they were invented 
locally*, they are pretty common around here.  However, there are 
lots of companies (MEC and independent outdoor shops) that sell 
knockoffs at typically half the price.  The knockoffs usually have 
fewer features, but some have more or better features.

I got an MEC copy long before I started kayaking and it's still my 
main hat.  I'd love to replace the disgusting looking thing (last 
time I wore it, I had to rescue it from a very hungry Lab Retriever - 
owner of said Lab thought it was junk he'd found, as no one would 
possibly wear such a thing!). but I haven't found anything I prefer.

It _is_ waterproof - won't claim the same for the real Tilleys, and 
wear it in the rain quite often.  It gets soaked, but the water 
swells the threads and it doesn't leak.  I wash it occasionally and 
let it sit with the brim flat to stiffen up as it dries.  It has a 
permanent droop on the right side, giving it a hick-fisherman look.

The single chin line (I removed the second) runs to the back of my 
head and grips onto a bump where my spine connects to the skull.  I 
have never had it come off in the wind (!) and only occasionally in 
rolls.

I've looked at various sou'westers and such, but haven't been enticed 
yet.  The OR is high on the list, since they introduced a yellow 
version a few years ago.

Mike
*Actually, I know folks who had this style hat for canoeing before 
anyone heard of Tilley.
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From: Chris Madden <maddencg_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:33:12 -0700
You might talk to OR about a replacement. Over the weekend I was hiking with a
friend and he told me they replaced 2 pair of gaiters for him for nothing as
the were advertised with a lifetime warrantee.

Christopher G. Madden
maddencg_at_earthlink.net

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  From: Tony
  Subject: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat


  My old OR rain hat gave up its ghost recently and I need replacement.
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:07:27 -0700
> locally*, they are pretty common around here.  However, there are
> lots of companies (MEC and independent outdoor shops) that sell
> knockoffs at typically half the price.  The knockoffs usually have
> fewer features, but some have more or better features.

Yeah, MEC has such a habit - manufacturing knock-offs, and not too bad.  Did
you mean their CDN 29 Canvas Hat?
I've bought a knock-off of this MEC knock-off two years ago :-), for CDN 15.
Brass plated grommets became green and canvas around them - brown, 'cause
they were not real brass, just plated. Otherwise it works.
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From: Jeff Bingham <kayakjef_at_bellsouth.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:00:49 -0400
on 4/12/04 1:09 PM, Tony at tony_at_tesar-reynes.com wrote:

> My old OR rain hat gave up its ghost recently and I need replacement. It has
> kept me dry in many places that I would love to go back and visit.The first
> thought was to buy another one. Then I started looking on the web. The
> Kokatat Nor'wester looked nice but pricey.
> 
> I wear a rain hat on my kayak, hiking, etc. I wear glasses and like a wide
> brim. Any suggestions out there to justify the price or find a good
> alternative.

Try the Watership Trading Companie "Seabird"
I have found this to be the most comfortable.
There supplex version dries in a flash but is a little loose in the wind.
They make a stiffer duck cloth version that might be better for less
tropical areas than South Florida.

Jeffrey Bingham
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:08:48 -0700
> Try the Watership Trading Companie "Seabird"
> I have found this to be the most comfortable.
> There supplex version dries in a flash but is a little loose in the wind.
> They make a stiffer duck cloth version that might be better for less
> tropical areas than South Florida.

I've checked their website and I'm lost in fabrics selection. "Technical
Laminate", "Canvas", something else... Which one did you mean by stiffer
duck cloth version ?
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From: Jeff Bingham <kayakjef_at_bellsouth.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A new spring hat
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:23:43 -0400
on 4/13/04 9:08 PM, alex at al.m_at_3web.net wrote:

>> Try the Watership Trading Companie "Seabird"
>> I have found this to be the most comfortable.
>> There supplex version dries in a flash but is a little loose in the wind.
>> They make a stiffer duck cloth version that might be better for less
>> tropical areas than South Florida.
> 
> I've checked their website and I'm lost in fabrics selection. "Technical
> Laminate", "Canvas", something else... Which one did you mean by stiffer
> duck cloth version ?
> 

I have not been to their web-site so I can not really answer other than the
"canvas" sounds like the stiffer "duck" that I had once.

Brgds
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