On Wednesday 21 July 2004 07.22, you wrote: > > PS The S4 sail area is 5 sq meters (about 50 sq. ft). > > 5 sq.m is about 55 sq.ft; I've looked through your new pictures, and was > prompted to read all 4 phases of Dal's website again. His final rig is 68 > sq.ft (28sq.ft jib + 40 sq.ft Optimist, though listed 35 in specs). He > tends to solve problems cheap, I tried this too, but eventually had to buy > from Balogh and Folbot, and don't regret. Dal claims an excellent upwind > sailing with only 35 (40) sq.ft sail, so your S4 must be equally good with > proper rudder and proper leeboard. He also says, btw, that his home-made > leeboard (looks at least same big as Klepper's) is too small to prevent a > leeway. As yet I haven't used my own design leeboards ( see http://foldingkayaks.org/gallery/tord/leeboard_before_reinforcing ) but I think I'll just use one, and change the profile to symmetric ... > May be I was too pessimistic about 60-65 degrees upwind sailing after > fighting with currents, and missing last ferry to mainland :-). It could > be 50-55 deg, but I doubt it was anything better with an aft 32 sq.ft rig. > I'm planning to add another, fore sail (smaller, perhaps 24 sq.ft) to my 32 > sq.ft aft sail on a hardshell kayak. Mark Balogh assured me once that > upwind rigs are "natural upwind climbers". Not really, as I've found. Of > course, he knows a lot and could mean something else. Yes, they tend to > turn into wind, but don't tend to sail well in this direction :-)... > Also, tacking with an aft sail always involves 2-3 paddling strokes, > and larger rudder is needed (and preferably foiled). Such adaptations > are sometimes unique, - I couldn't find anybody with an aft rig on > hardshell kayak or Feathercraft Kahuna, except for experimental > Kahuna aft rig by Mark Balogh, not suitable for my purposes. > Though, with Kahuna my task was easier due to > Tony Niilus project with K1: http://www.geocities.com/niilus/ . Most of > dimensions I had to change, adapting it to my boat. > > Round tubes are probaly used on seas for aerodynamical and uniform strength > considerations. 20 * 20 mm square tube has a diagonal same as 20 mm round > tube, which means same size at certain directions as in 20mm round tube (= > same wind resistance, or even higher due to turbulence around corners) , > but I.m not sure how much stronger is a square one. And even then it will > be stronger in some directions and weaker in others, while round one has > uniform strength. Just thinking aloud... Buckling a round is on the other hand much easier to do, so they are not ideal in bending - in a normal rig the stays are there to help it from bucking. For compression, on the other hand, the round tube is without equal! Tord, rookie sailor *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Jul 21 2004 - 12:04:31 PDT
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