I lost track of who is making what comments are asking what questions, but: Any roll that requires noticeable "muscle" is being done wrong so shoulder injury is a real possibility. My observation: c-to-c effectiveness seems very dependant on having the flexibility to have a big weight displacement between the setup "C" and the roll "C" plus the ability to get the torso high in the water during setup (also flexibility). Since my flexibility (and c-to-c roll) stinks, I usually do a sweep roll & lay back type body motion for rolling - head arched back into the water - though sometime I just put the paddle out at 90 degrees and hip snap up without actually sweeping. When "deep" bracing if the capsizing force is not too strong I can get away with a c-to-c type motion, but if it is strong I invariably end up with my back and back of my head hitting the water (as another paddler recommended on this thread). Usually I can get back up that way, but if the force is ongoing (contrary current for example) I usually need a few sculls to do so. To get my head moving the right way (from one shoulder to the other), I practice in slo-mo, focusing on moving the head from one shoulder to another without worrying too much about having a very committed brace or the boat leaned very far. I like to think of trying to pull my off-knee toward my ear to j-lean and then pull my on-knee toward my other ear during the hip-snap Once the muscles are trained, it's relatively easy to transfer that to real braces. In any case, staying up is not worth tweaking a shoulder so I won't hesitate to let myself go over if it starts to feel strained. Steve Brown -----Original Message----- ...... When I try the C to C, I now notice that it requires the same muscle as the 'deep brace' and I sometimes miss the roll. So whatever I am doing wrong in the c to c, I am doing the same thing in the deep brace....... ........ Try as I might I cannot tell what I am doing with my head. Do you have any suggestions for head awareness training? ....... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat Jul 31 2004 - 17:12:53 PDT
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