PeterO wrote; > Interesting analysis, though I hope and suspect that like computer generated > music, computer designed kayaks will only ever be a small niche market. Are > cars designed this way? Some notes about using computers in design work. Computers do not design much of anything. I asked mine to design a kayak and left it on for week but nothing happened. Turns out you have to do it yourself. The computer does help with the drawing and calculations though. It helps if you actually know something about design first since you can design bad boat faster on a computer just as easily (or maybe more easily) than designing a good boat.. I think one can fairly say that most things made in industrialized nations for the mass market (and not so mass market) these days take advantage of computers at some stage in the design process. The CAD drawings produced with them provide the information needed for machining and mold making. CAD drawings provide greater accuracy, faster mold production and more accurate machining. far from "being a niche" market products designed using computers have become mainstream. Computers do not design different boats or better boats or worse boats than any other method. People still do the design work. The computer just makes it easier to do. I suspect that the majority of kayaks sold in the USA had plugs or molds made from CAD drawings and machined on CNC machines. These days CNC machines have gotten ridiculously cheap and people who do that kind of work seem to have more than they can do. Most of those Stitch and glue kit boats you see had their designs created on a computer and the parts cut out on a CNC machine. Oh, and yes, most cars get born on computer terminals. > Re modular kayaks, seems we could again learn from the past. I have never > seen craft so beautiful as the sailing boats built by the Indonesians and > the Torres Strait Islanders a few centuries ago. Apparently there was quite > a trade in dugout hulls which were exported from the Indonesian mainland, > where hardwood was readily available. They were sold all over the Torres > Strait Islands where they were outfitted with decks, mast, sails and rigging > wonderfully constructed from palm leaf, bamboo and lines woven from hemp. I don't know about learning it from the Torres Strait islanders but boat builders have sold hull shells (and other parts) to other builders for as long as I have worked in the boat industry (since 1960). They were sold all over the North America where they were outfitted with decks, mast, sails and rigging wonderfully constructed from wood, fiberglass and synthetic lines made from petroleum products. Some even benefited from products made from hemp. ;-) I apologize for that but sometimes I can't control myself. I suspect a lot of the misunderstandings about the topic of copies stems from misunderstandings about what constitutes a copy versus what constitutes derivation. Since even the courts have problems with this it should come as no surprise. Few designers have any problem with people designing or building boats that incorporate certain features that they use in their designs whether individually or in concert. Many, however, get puckered up when the "new" boat looks too much like their own. What constitutes "too much"? There lies the problem. Even if the designers think they know, the courts may not agree. More importantly you may not find two judges or juries that agree on the same case. In a small industry like kayak and canoe building where legal remedies don't make any sense due to their cost it becomes a matter of individual integrity and an educated public. If the buying public could learn to respect the effort that original designers put into the product they enjoy so much maybe they would reject copies. I have found that most people can recognize a near copy when they see it especially when they have the original beside it. Contrary to what we have occasionally read here boats do not get better because of copies and near copies. They get better when designers and builders think creatively. Cheers John Winters *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Aug 17 2004 - 04:37:10 PDT
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