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From: John Winters <jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Mirage vs Barton et al.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:02:51 -0300
I suspect a number of factors. Certanly the steady power output made a huge
difference. Also the difference between leg and arm power. I have not looked
closely at the Mirage propulsion system but it may have a design more
suitable for low speed high thrust than high speed. Sort of like the
difference between a tug boat and a destroyer. The one has a large propellor
operating at low speed and the other  a smaller propellor operating at high
speed. They may have had a much different result had they had the battle
between a sprint canoeist and the Mirage. Sprint canoeists use huge paddles
(realatively speaking) and lots of upper body strength. At the top level
canoeists will pull away form kayaks in the first 50  to 100 meters and then
fall behind.

Wouldn't you love to see a power curve for the two.

Yes, Matt, you probably have it right - they sucker punched Barton.

Cheers

John Winters
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From: James <jimtibensky_at_fastmail.fm>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mirage vs Barton et al.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:08:12 -0700
John Winters said:  At the top level canoeists will pull away from
kayaks in the first 50 to 100 meters and
then fall behind.


I used to race sprint kayaks and never saw this.  Never saw it in slalom
or marathon boats, either.  Are you sure about this????  In any
human-powered boat of any kind, 50 meters is a huge distance.  I don't
believe a single canoe could beat a single kayak over any distance, not
even five meters.  I could imagine that if a kayakist and a canoeist
each took only one giant stroke, the canoe would proabably win because
of the bigger blade area and the leverage and weight on the blade
advantage gained from the high kneel, but make it two strokes and the
kayak should win.


>From life-long kayakist Jim Tibensky
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