ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au writes: > Copying earlier designs and building is the way a lot of > kayaks have come to be what they are now. The Nordkapp was modelled on a Greenland boat in a museum. Frank Goodman makes the Nordkapp in the UK, around 1977. The design is made under royalty in New Zealand by Sisson kayaks Rob Gibbert wrote: The Ken Taylor kayak from Igldorssuit Greenland (1959) was the prototype for the substantially modified Anas Acuta. Mr Goodman bought the design. He altered that even for expedition purposes (Nordkapp Expedition) and the Nordkapp was born. The Pintail followed to improve on the playful aspects of the Anas Acuta. 3 kayaks from one SOF. Pretty darn good. Am quite glad Mr Taylor went to Greenland. Rob, as told by the article you shared with me, there's also a long story between the original 1959 SOF and the first plywood Anas Acuta iteration. And the Pintail begat the Avocet, which then begat the Aquanaut and Argonaut. And somewhere in the early 80's, the Nordkapp begat the Selkie. So more like 7 glassfiber iterations based on the original SOF, and probably several plywood iterations in the 60's based on the original SOF, and before the Anas Acuta came into being. I am also very, very glad of Mr. Taylor's and Mr. Heath's interest in Greenland way back then. It's a long way from the original 1959 kayak built for Ken Taylor by Emanuele Korneilesen, but even Mr. Taylor has suggested upon (recently) learning of the long chain that possibly some support be given to Mr. Korneilesen's descendents in Illorsuit. I've tried a SOF built to a close design of the original Ken Taylor kayak, and the SOF replica that Harvey Golden built of the 1959 SOF built by Emanuele Korneilesen at the same time for John Heath. The newer boats are fun, but the originals handle very well in their own right! Shawn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:02 PM 8/10/2004 -0700, Shawn Baker wrote: >ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au writes: > > Copying earlier designs and building is the way a lot of > > kayaks have come to be what they are now. The Nordkapp was modelled >on a Greenland boat in a museum. Frank Goodman makes the Nordkapp in >the UK, around 1977. The design is made under royalty in New Zealand by > >Sisson kayaks > >Rob Gibbert wrote: >The Ken Taylor kayak from Igldorssuit Greenland (1959) was the >prototype for the substantially modified Anas Acuta. Mr Goodman bought >the design. He altered that even for expedition purposes (Nordkapp >Expedition) and the Nordkapp was born. The Pintail followed to improve >on the playful aspects of the Anas Acuta. 3 kayaks from one SOF. Pretty >darn good. Am quite glad Mr Taylor went to Greenland. > >Rob, as told by the article you shared with me, there's also a long >story between the original 1959 SOF and the first plywood Anas Acuta >iteration. > >And the Pintail begat the Avocet, which then begat the Aquanaut and >Argonaut. > >And somewhere in the early 80's, the Nordkapp begat the Selkie. So where does the Skerray fit in? It appears that the new Quarajaq resembles the Anas Acuta more than any other offspring. John Fereira jaf30_at_cornell.edu Ithaca, NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Shawn wrote: > I've tried a SOF built to a close design of the original Ken Taylor > kayak, and the SOF replica that Harvey Golden built of the 1959 SOF > built by Emanuele Korneilesen at the same time for John Heath. The > newer boats are fun, but the originals handle very well in their own > right! Shawn: I among others was fortunate to paddle the Steve Maynard special that Bryan Lewis brought to the Vermont Madness meet in Burlington this spring. It is where I got the idea of a soft deck for my recent S&G/skillsaw adventures. The kayak that Steve built was done to Duncan Winning's drawing lengthened just a tad to fit him. It was like an Anas without the bad habits. It was fast, and it tracked well. I also got my first hand roll in it. A sweet boat in deed. You have seen the family tree that Ken Taylor has layed out depicting the early sequence of the evolution of the Igdlorssuit kayak???? michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> You have seen the family tree that Ken Taylor has layed out depicting > the > early sequence of the evolution of the Igdlorssuit kayak???? > michael No...has he laid one out? I was under the impression that Mr. Taylor was somewhat unaware until recently of the successors of his kayak. Rob sent me an article from a now defunct kayaking magazine entitled "It's Inuit, in't it?", by Duncan Winning, I believe...I'll have to dig out my copy. That article described the evolution between the Illorsuit kayak and the present-day Anas Acuta. >From what I understand, Igdlorssuit is the "old" orthography for the same town name now spelled "Illorsuit". As much as my excruciatingly poor Greenlandic pronounciation and not-so-good phonetic spelling will let me type, the town's name is pronounced I-khlor-su-it. The Greenlandic double-l is pronounced with sort of a throat-clearing sound. That understood, it's easy to see how that pronounciation could be spelled both ways. Shawn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 10 Aug 2004 at 13:02, Shawn Baker wrote: > Rob, as told by the article you shared with me, there's also a long > story between the original 1959 SOF and the first plywood Anas Acuta > iteration. > > And the Pintail begat the Avocet, which then begat the Aquanaut and > Argonaut. > > [...] Is this whole family tree posted anywhere? If not, then it would be an interesting addition to the kayak wiki pages. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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