Re: [Paddlewise] Greenland vs Euro paddles

From: Nick Schade <nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:08:49 -0400
On Sep 4, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Steve Brown wrote:
> Nevertheless, I do not agree with your assessment that once buried, the
> Greenland has the bite of a Euro. Paddles operate similarly to wings. 
> High
> aspect ratio wings have high lift-to-drag ratios, which is why they 
> are seen
> on high performance aircraft. Low aspect ratio wings have more lift in 
> when
> stalled so the transition from flying to stalled is less abrupt. This 
> is why
> they are seen on trainer aircraft and aircraft that must operate off 
> short
> fields.

I frequently here people talk about paddles working like wings and am 
prepared to accept that it is possible. Yet whenever I ask people to 
describe how the paddle is working like a wing, their explanations fall 
flat.

People like to talk about how Greenland paddles are similar to glider 
wings etc. But, they never seem to be able to explain how the motion of 
a forward-stroking Greenland paddle is similar to that of a glider wing 
through the air.

There is a very specific way a wing generates lift. If it does not move 
this way, it is not producing propulsion with lift. If you want forward 
propulsive thrust the paddle must move perpendicular to the direction 
of desired thrust and perpendicular to the axis of the "wing". So a 
paddle held more-or-less vertically must move more-or-less sideways, 
either away from or towards the boat. If it is not doesn't do this, it 
doesn't produce propulsion with lift and comparing it to a wing doesn't 
make sense.

The clearest descriptions I have read for the Greenland stroke do not 
indicate they move through the water in a manner that would produce 
lift. I have tried hard to make sure I am understanding the 
descriptions and I've asked detailed questions. The more I asked the 
less convinced I was that Greenland paddles use lift to produce 
propulsion in a forward stroke.
Nick Schade

Guillemot Kayaks
824 Thompson St
Glastonbury, CT 06033
USA
Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
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