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From: John Winters <jdwinters_at_eastlink.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Care and maintenance of carbon paddles
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:43:59 -0400
PeterO wrote;

>I've had a carbon fibre paddle for 3 years and the blades are starting to 
>be
>covered with fine scratches. Can anyone tell me if this will weaken the
>blade which is exposed to a fair bit of UV in the intense Australian sun.
>Also recommendations on restoration of the surface and care and maintenance
>would be very welcome.

Acccording to my source the carbon fiber should provide adequate protection 
to the laminate below the first layer but some deterioration on the surface 
may occur. If the scratches bother you the paint will solve the problem (you 
can even use it for fancy decoration if that turns you on) . Two part 
polyurethanes seem to work best. I have used these for over 25 years and 
they hold their gloss as well as providing a touhg finish. Most custom yacht 
builders use them. Brand names that I have used with success include 
AWLGRIP, International, IMRON and Sika. Not sure how easily you can them 
Down Under  but every marine store worthy of the name that I have seen 
carries something.

Cheers

John Winters
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Care and maintenance of carbon paddles
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:39:30 +1100
John wrote:
>the carbon fiber should provide adequate protection
>to the laminate below the first layer but some
>deterioration on the surface may occur. If the
>scratches bother you the paint will solve the problem
>(you can even use it for fancy decoration if that
>turns you on). Two part polyurethanes seem to work best.

G'day John,

Thanks for the advice. The scratches do bother me a bit, which is curious
because normal wear and tear scratches on a boat don't worry me much at all!
Anyway I'll certainly try the two part polyurethane and hope that its
available in a transparent version.

All the best, PeterO
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From: Nick Schade <nick_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Care and maintenance of carbon paddles
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:21:24 -0500
On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:39 PM, PeterO wrote:

> John wrote:
>> the carbon fiber should provide adequate protection
>> to the laminate below the first layer but some
>> deterioration on the surface may occur. If the
>> scratches bother you the paint will solve the problem
>> (you can even use it for fancy decoration if that
>> turns you on). Two part polyurethanes seem to work best.
>
> G'day John,
>
> Thanks for the advice. The scratches do bother me a bit, which is 
> curious
> because normal wear and tear scratches on a boat don't worry me much 
> at all!
> Anyway I'll certainly try the two part polyurethane and hope that its
> available in a transparent version.

Remember that adding a finish will add weight. On a normal paddle I 
wouldn't let this slow me down, but since part of the reason for carbon 
is lightweight it does matter a little more. I would let the scratches 
accumulate before doing anything drastic. Small scratches could be 
buffed out at the expense of some material if they really bother you. 
The best solution is to just ignore them.

Nick Schade

Guillemot Kayaks
824 Thompson St
Glastonbury, CT 06033
USA
Ph/Fx: (860) 659-8847
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Care and maintenance of carbon paddles
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:43:09 -0500
On 12 Jan 2005 at 22:21, Nick Schade wrote:

> Remember that adding a finish will add weight. On a normal paddle I
> wouldn't let this slow me down, but since part of the reason for
> carbon is lightweight it does matter a little more. I would let the
> scratches accumulate before doing anything drastic. Small scratches
> could be buffed out at the expense of some material if they really
> bother you. The best solution is to just ignore them.

Alternatively, you could try using a squeegee to let the polyurethane 
only accumulate in the scratches and not coat the whole surface.  
Sort of what I do with gel coat when I want to repair a lot of 
scratches on a hull.  In fact, you could use epoxy instead of PU.

Mike
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Care and maintenance of carbon paddles
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:43:10 +1100
Thanks Nick,

I'll try buffing out the scratches first as you suggest because this should
also tell me whether they are deep enough to worry about, although John
Winter's advice and the fact that they look more like scuff marks than
scratches suggests they are not a problem as far as paddle strength is
concerned.

All the best, PeterO
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