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From: Evan Dallas <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Follow-up Dehydrating Questions
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:42:51 -0800
Rick Sylvia wrote:



>>>>> No source of info even remotely mentioned the freezer for even longer
storage.  So..... is it good, bad or indifferent to store dehydrated food in
the freezer?



Also, I've read that some items take as much as 60 hours to dehydrate. I
think that was apricots, if I recall correctly.  Anyway, I know virtually
nothing about electricity, and the differences between, Watts, Volts, Amps
and so forth.  So, the question is, 60 hours is a long time..... how much
does it actually cost to operate a dehydrator? Surely, it's pennies, or it
wouldn't be cost effective, right?<<<<<



If I intend to keep the dehydrated food for very long, I always put it in
the freezer.  Since most freezer damage is the result of ice crystals
forming in the food, the fact that dehydrated foods have low moisture
content protects them most of this damage.  I've kept foods such as
dehydrated tamale pie for over two years with no apparent loss of quality.
It keeps even better if you vacuum pack it before putting into the freezer.



Regarding electricity consumption: In my 500 watt Harvest Maid dehydrator,
apricots are supposed to take about 14 hours to dehydrate.  The electric
companies bill you for "kilowatt hours".  So if you multiply 500 watts by 14
hours, you get 7 kilowatt hours (a measure of the total amount of
electricity you've used).  Although I haven't checked my electric bill
lately, in my neck of the woods (Woodinville, Washington; USA) I think we
pay around 10 cents per each additional kilowatt hour.  So using my
dehydrator at full power for 14 hours would cost roughly $0.70.  If your
dehydrator really takes 60 hours, I suspect your wattage is proportionally
less, so the above calculations should still be roughly accurate (in other
words, whether they dry quickly or slowly probably takes roughly the same
total amount of electricity).



Evan Dallas
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Follow-up Dehydrating Questions
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:24:05 -0500
On 17 Jan 2005 at 12:42, Evan Dallas wrote:

> Regarding electricity consumption: In my 500 watt Harvest Maid
> dehydrator, apricots are supposed to take about 14 hours to dehydrate.

I wonder if it really runs at 500w much of the time.  I suspect that 
it consumes somewhat less on average - I may be wrong, but I expect 
that the heater doesn't stay on all the time.  Only meat products are 
dried at max, so even if the heater is on all the time, for fruits 
and such it will likely be on a a lower level.  So the electricity 
cost estimate of under a dollar (say) is reasonable.  However, it 
obviously is beneficial to dry as much as possible in a single load.  
My unit can take quite a few trays - much more than I've ever used at 
one time.

Mike
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From: alex <al.m_at_3web.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Follow-up Dehydrating Questions
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:15:58 -0800
> pay around 10 cents per each additional kilowatt hour.  So using my
> dehydrator at full power for 14 hours would cost roughly $0.70.

Did you check, how many lbs of fresh apricots you can load, and how many lbs
of dry apricots you get in the end? I'm just trying to figure out if we can
beat supermarket dehydrated prices.  Or - "freeze-dried".  I don't know
whether those dry bananas that I've bought in Chinatown, were dehydrated of
freeze-dried (not a single English word on the package), but they were not
cheap - $4 per lb or even more. (No weight on the package either - hell, I
don't even know if they are sure bananas :-)
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From: Evan Dallas <evand_at_pensionresourcegroup.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Follow-up Dehydrating Questions
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:37:04 -0800
Alex

Well, the capacity is determined more by tray size than by weight.  Mine has
8 trays and each tray each holds 0.86 square feet per tray (according to the
advertising on the side of the box it came in), so that's a little less than
7 sq. feet fully loaded (sounds like an ad for a car).  So how many pounds
of apricots can you squeeze into 7 feet?  I'll leave that one to you.  

But in my opinion, it's not just a question of price (store bought may
actually be cheaper, at least for the common stuff like prunes, raisins,
etc), but also quality.  You can bet that the apricots (or other fruit) used
for commercial drying aren't their best quality.  Also, you can avoid the
sulphuring that is common to most commercial dried fruit.  Another nice
option is to buy extra fruit from the fruit stands at peak season when they
taste best and are often at their cheapest, then dry the extras.  Although
I'm probably biased, I think my home dried stuff tastes a lot better than
the commercial stuff. I've even bought canned pineapple, dried it, and it
STILL tasted better than store-bought dried pineapple.  I haven't tried
drying fresh pineapple (just because I always end up eating it!), but I'm
sure that would be vastly superior.

Just for fun, try dehydrating watermelon some time!  (A little too sweet for
my taste, but definitely worth trying.  I may add some lemon to it next time
I try it.)

Evan


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Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Follow-up Dehydrating Questions

> pay around 10 cents per each additional kilowatt hour.  So using my
> dehydrator at full power for 14 hours would cost roughly $0.70.

Did you check, how many lbs of fresh apricots you can load, and how many lbs
of dry apricots you get in the end? I'm just trying to figure out if we can
beat supermarket dehydrated prices.  Or - "freeze-dried".  I don't know
whether those dry bananas that I've bought in Chinatown, were dehydrated of
freeze-dried (not a single English word on the package), but they were not
cheap - $4 per lb or even more. (No weight on the package either - hell, I
don't even know if they are sure bananas :-)
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