Did anyone have any memorable kayak trips over the Memorial weekend? I was on-call for my job so wasn't able to leave town. Memorable? Oh yes. We paddled Cape Flattery, Washington State, over the weekend, camping at Hobuck Beach on the Makah Reservation. We took trips to Tatoosh Island and the following day to Shi Shi beach. Conditions were good for the most part, though we did perform a rescue, of which I'll detail in a moment. We launched in small surf off Hobuck and rounded Waatch Point, the north side of Makah Bay. As we progressed along the Cape Flattery shoreline we ducked in and out of rock and reef gardens, chutes and sea caves. The caves along flattery are spectacular. In one of them we managed to get all of us into it and marvelled at the high ceilings and multiple entrances and exits. The swells were only about 4 feet but quick with 8 second periods. The breeze was fairly steady to about 15 knots and added some wind waves to the swells and clapotis. After a quick lunch on a pocket beach on the cape we paddled over to Tatoosh Island. On the west side between Tatoosh and little Tatoosh we saw big colonies of Stellar Sea Lions. A couple of cranky bulls, the size of my car, dove in to yell and moan at us, hastening our departure. Paddling back across the channel, aptly named Hole in the Wall, the breeze picked up and raised up a short choppy sea with a decreasing ebb current still opposed to the breeze. We ran into another group of paddlers returning to Hobuck of whom a couple I knew. This is when things changed for the worse. Along Waatch Point we threaded through a rock garden with following seas, studded by boomers. There was a clear path but timing, as always is essential. Of the 4 in their group I knew *J* and J2* but not really anyone else. Our group cleared the garden and I turned to see the others come through. *J* yelled out BOATER OVER... SWIMMER! Uh oh, not a good place for that. *J* managed to be on scene first and had the boat up over the deck to dump it. I yelled for everyone else to hold their position and face out to sea. I yelled to *S* to get a line on the free boat to hold it off the cliffs. The boats were bucking in the surge and getting awfully close to the rocks. *S's* towline was not ready and at 35 feet it was too long for where we were, so I snapped my 15 foot line to *J's* kayak. I do not like connecting to a rescuer as they need to be more mobile but it was all that could be done at the time. I headed over to the opening and pulled *J* and *K* as far from the rocks as I could without standing over the boomers. I then yelled to get *K* in the boat. No response. It was a bit noisy and folks were nervous, so I yelled again to get *K* in the boat. Still, *K* was not in the boat. Hmmmm. Water had began infiltrating the boat again.The swells coming through the gap were in a bit of a lull so I drifted back, grabbed *K's* coaming and had *K* get in. When the spray deck snapped on I said *skip the pumping lean onto "J's* kayak for support and hang on*. My line was clipped onto *K's* bow by now and then the big set rolled through. Yikes! I paddled into them in an effort to get whatever sea room I could in the tight confines of the garden. It was enough but the ride was bumpy as the swells rolled through, breaking on the boomers and spilling into us. I dug in hard with the big blades and for a few dozen yards the going was tough. I think I braced once or twice but only looked at *J* and *K*, the whitewater and the clean green room in front. We were actually paddling almost parallel to each other but eventually made it.Once there we took the time to get her boat pumped out and nerves detoxed. Our groups stayed together until we landed on Hobuck and debriefed. The rescue was quick, it worked and no one had anything worse than hurt feelings. *J* and *K* looked like typical coastal paddlers around here: Mariner or British kayaks, immersion apparrel, helmets, pfd's and some tow lines. That being said, we can still improve somewhat. *J* was quickly on the scene, doing a full 180 and starting the T Rescue before anyone else got there. *J* was first in spotting the capsize. *J* suggested the tow line carried was not instantly deployable so it offered no real benefit for this scenario. *S's* tow line was 35 feet long and its use would have stood him in the impact zone. *S's* clip was not instantly ready to deploy. "*S* might benefit by daisy chaining the 35 foot line down to 15-20 and have a non corrosive quick release clip on the line to release the daisy chain. Also, *S* should have the clip out of the bag clipped onto a D ring on the belt so it can be had fast when needed. I suggested skipping the T part of the rescue and getting *K* back in fast and scooting *K* out to cleaner water then pumping out. *K's* boat, a Mariner Coaster with no bulkheads and 2 large fixed floatbags was adequate to allow that, though pumping would possibly be more arduous later. I suggested I did not like clipping onto *J's* kayak to pull them off rocks but was all I could do at the time. *K* did not get back in the boat nearly as fast as needed. I think the delay was their not making the connection to reenter while I was pulling them off the rocks. *J* might have had better luck if *J* was in position to hold coaming and get *K* onto back deck and reenter while I was pulling. That is pure speculation, though. The tow worked but was not pretty. *K* ended up slightly behind *J* and the line went under *J's* boat a bit. *K* held on to *J's* boat gamely by gripping deck lines in back and draping over so *J* could paddle. *J* used a GP and I do not know what effect it had in our forward momentum. (CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT ALERT:) I was very glad I did not have my GP as the concussive power of my big blades were exactly what I needed when I need them. The GP, in my hands, may not have been enough. BOATER OVER rhymes with Motor Voter, Snow Blower, Body Odor, etc. CAPSIZE, seems less confusing to me.SWIMMER is unmistakeable. I coded the names and de-gendered the text in case anyone involved wants to get uninvolved. It makes for clumsier reading to which I apologize. Your comments appreciated. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). 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On 1 Jun 2005 at 15:22, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote: > I do not like connecting to a rescuer as they need to > be more mobile but it was all that could be done at the time. I've been in that situation and I think that what you did was correct. In my case, I was the rescuer and the person towed. The person towing felt that it would be quicker and easier than messing about with towing a somewhat disabled paddler (hypothermia). I think that towing an accomplished paddler may often be better than towing a less capable one, providing that the paddler being towed is providing immediate assistance to the other paddler. The accomplished paddler is more likely to be able to handle a tough situation even if they are clipped in. They are comfortable using the other kayak as an outrigger and leaning onto it for support. They aren't likely to be shy about banging things about or pushing limits a tad. It does bring to mind the idea that I think of occasionally - that the paddler being towed should have a quick-release capability. Not easy if the tow is attached to the toggle or forward lifelines. > daisy chaining the 35 foot line down to 15-20 nitpicking, but then, I'm an annoying terminology nit - chain sinnet. A daisy chain is something else. > (CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT ALERT:) I was very glad I did not have my GP > as the concussive power of my big blades were exactly what I needed > when I need them. The GP, in my hands, may not have been enough. Not controversial to me. I use the GP almost all the time, but readily admit that if I was in your position, I'd want my Lendal. The GP is great for everything _except_ acceleration and power. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 6/2/2005 11:33:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, mikedaly_at_magma.ca writes: > I do not like connecting to a rescuer as they need to > be more mobile but it was all that could be done at the time. I've been in that situation and I think that what you did was correct. In my case, I was the rescuer and the person towed. The person towing felt that it would be quicker and easier than messing about with towing a somewhat disabled paddler (hypothermia). I think that towing an accomplished paddler may often be better than towing a less capable one, providing that the paddler being towed is providing immediate assistance to the other paddler. The accomplished paddler is more likely to be able to handle a tough situation even if they are clipped in. They are comfortable using the other kayak as an outrigger and leaning onto it for support. They aren't likely to be shy about banging things about or pushing limits a tad. That's a great point. I posted the scenario because the critical thinking skills and collective experience of others might reveal other reasoning that could be useful. Post-incident reconstruction is useful to fine tune decisions that will again need to be made in the future. It does bring to mind the idea that I think of occasionally - that the paddler being towed should have a quick-release capability. Not easy if the tow is attached to the toggle or forward lifelines. I noticed that *J* used a contact tow to secure the kayak to *K's* kayak. When we released on the green water I noticed *J* took several seconds to unhook. *J* could not have released the carabiner under strain, particularly if *K's* kayak somehow upset again. My contact tow is a 3 foot length of 1 inch webbing with a quick release cam in the center for that reason. > daisy chaining the 35 foot line down to 15-20 nitpicking, but then, I'm an annoying terminology nit - chain sinnet. A daisy chain is something else. That's new to me. Hey Mike, you've been useful twice already! > (CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT ALERT:) I was very glad I did not have my GP > as the concussive power of my big blades were exactly what I needed > when I need them. The GP, in my hands, may not have been enough. Not controversial to me. I use the GP almost all the time, but readily admit that if I was in your position, I'd want my Lendal. The GP is great for everything _except_ acceleration and power. Love those Nordkapp blades! Lots of oomph. I know there is someone, somewhere with a GP that could deliver the power needed in the situation, but it wouldn't have been me. Water depth was spotty, too. They might have left a couple inches of western red cedar on the rocks. Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 2 Jun 2005 at 14:59, Rcgibbert_at_aol.com wrote: > I noticed that *J* used a contact tow to secure the kayak to *K's* > kayak. When we released on the green water I noticed *J* took > several seconds to unhook. *J* could not have released the > carabiner under strain, particularly if *K's* kayak somehow upset > again. My contact tow is a 3 foot length of 1 inch webbing with a > quick release cam in the center for that reason. I would never use a contact tow that wasn't quick release. I have a low-profile cleat on my front deck that I use in conjunction with a short line and stainless carabiner. (photo of my cleat in center of this page: <http://www.kayakforum.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/guille/wiki.pl?Cleat>) I used to use a pigtail on a WW rescue PFD, but not with my towing SK PFD. I prefer the deck-mounted cleat. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. My next door neighbor called me at work and said a large tree had fallen in my back yard. I went paddling on Saturnday and had left my kayak on my car until late Sunday then moved it onto some slings in the backyard. Big mistake: http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg John Fereira jaf30_at_cornell.edu Ithaca, NY *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John, Man what a bummer. But remember, If you can build it out of wood, you can repair it also. There was a site where a guy rebuilt a kayak the looked beyond repair, but I don't have it anymore. Talk to Jim et al on the is forum, he has rebuilt one that was broken it half. That looks like an oak tree, so maybe you could split out some ribs for a skin on frame kayak. You know the old saying, "if you get handed a lemon, build a kayak" Good luck Buddy, Ronnie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John: I admire you for sharing that with us. Gorgeous boat. Tom *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ouch!! What a tragedy! *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:08:06PM -0400, John Fereira wrote: > We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. > > My next door neighbor called me at work and said a large tree had fallen in > my back yard. I went paddling on Saturnday and had left my kayak on my car > until late Sunday then moved it onto some slings in the backyard. Big > mistake: > > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg > John Fereira Whoo. That's going to take a lot of duct tape. My condolences on your loss. In the second photo, along the crack below the starboard cockpit rim (now there's words to make you feel dizzy), it looks like the epoxy and glass have delaminated from the cedar. Is that an illusion, just me, or what? -- Tommy McGuire *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My heart goes out to you, John. I admire your sense of humor about the whole thing. Josh (Cornell sabbatical, 1996-1997, Near Eastern Studies) Quoting John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>: > We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. > > My next door neighbor called me at work and said a large tree had fallen in > my back yard. I went paddling on Saturnday and had left my kayak on my car > until late Sunday then moved it onto some slings in the backyard. Big > mistake: > > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg > John Fereira *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. > > My next door neighbor called me at work and said a large tree had > fallen in my back yard. I went paddling on Saturnday and had left my > kayak on my car until late Sunday then moved it onto some slings in > the backyard. Big mistake: > > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg > John Fereira > jaf30_at_cornell.edu > Ithaca, NY Ouch!!! -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. >... > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg > John Fereira If the "scratches of experience" adds to "character", just think of the stories you can tell once you glue this back together and get it back on the water! I can see many campfire tales in your future - way better than the Korean Orca Roll. Seriously, sorry for your loss. I paddled an Outer Island last month for the first time and covet the boat. Jennifer ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (including headers/footers/sig lines/extraneous text from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material in addition to removing header/trailers when replying to posts.] This is exactly why I keep my kayaks in the dining room next to the table. <grin> Of course, we don't have a lot of trees in this area so perhaps I'm being overcautious. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA On 6/7/05, J Pivovar <jpivovar_at_headwinds.org> wrote: > > We just had a big thunderstorm pass through. > >... > > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4937.jpg > > http://mayfly.mannlib.cornell.edu/stormdamage/IMG_4938.jpg > > John Fereira *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
To the unfortunate one who recently joined a very infamous club (I am VP of said club). Here are two links showing what can be done once the splinters settle. Stick the Outer Island in a corner for a while and break it out when the muse is upon you. It will be fine in the end. And it will make for a cool story. Especially if you embellish. Embellishment is the right of the story teller. This kayak was very broken into many, many pieces on its maiden voyage. http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/seayaktwo/album?.dir=27a3&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos This kayak was guillotined before it made it out of the shop. I wont name the builder. http://community.webshots.com/album/149716235PrahZV/4 Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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