Does anyone know the name, or ben conatcted by a Giles Grace in regards to purchasing your kayak??? I have recently ben contacted by this individual about buying one of the kayaks I have listed and It had all the markings of a scam. In a rush to send a check, no questions asked, and directions about contacting his shiping agent for pickup, and then all comunications suddenly cease. Most strange indeed. michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Does anyone know the name, or ben conatcted by a Giles Grace in regards to > purchasing your kayak??? > > I have recently ben contacted by this individual about buying one of the > kayaks I have listed and It had all the markings of a scam. In a rush to > send a check, no questions asked, and directions about contacting his > shiping agent for pickup, and then all comunications suddenly cease. Most > strange indeed. Old scheme/scam. Different names, same method. The cheque will bounce later. Sometimes they sned you a cheque on much higher amount, with attached crap about their overly sophisticated and confused channels of cash flow as an excuse, asking you to pay them the difference. and telling that you may ship a kayak later 9they trust you that much). You, being honest, pay from real account, of course (and then again have their bounced cheque on hands). Very old joke. Probably, older than "millions from Nigeria" (Zimbabwe, Burundi, you name it) - I think, many of you received such an e-mail, - about some millions that got stuck in Nigeria and they need your account information to transfer those millions to you (and then to share it generously with you). At some moment they ask about very little amount to bribe local Nigerian authorities, like $150 or 250, - saying that this is the very last obstacle between you and millions. Then all communications suddenly ceaze :-) ... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Michael, et al - I'm sure that many, if not all persons who have ever listed something on the 'net for sale have received similar fraudulent replies. In general, the reply is from somewhere outside the country in which the item for sale is located. Most times, the buyer offers to send a check of some sort (certified, bank, cashier's or something of that ilk), but notes that it will exceed the purchase price by a bit...anywhere from a couple of hundred to a couple of thousand dollars. You're to send the buyer the difference (usually via Western Union Transfer, or something like that), and the "shipping agent" will contact you for the pickup. Once you've sent the Western Union Transfer, then you will: 1)wait (in vain) for the "shipping agent" to contact you, and 2) find (anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months later) that the check you deposited was no good. You still have the boat, however. JG -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net] On Behalf Of MICHAEL SILVIUS Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:08 PM To: paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: [Paddlewise] kayak sellers be warned Does anyone know the name, or ben conatcted by a Giles Grace in regards to purchasing your kayak??? I have recently ben contacted by this individual about buying one of the kayaks I have listed and It had all the markings of a scam. In a rush to send a check, no questions asked, and directions about contacting his shiping agent for pickup, and then all comunications suddenly cease. Most strange indeed. michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gamel" <jgamel_at_rcn.com> > Michael, et al - I'm sure that many, if not all persons who have ever listed > something on the 'net for sale have received similar fraudulent replies. In > general, the reply is from somewhere outside the country in which the item > for sale is located. Most times, the buyer offers to send a check of some > sort (certified, bank, cashier's or something of that ilk), but notes that > it will exceed the purchase price by a bit...anywhere from a couple of > hundred to a couple of thousand dollars. You're to send the buyer the > difference (usually via Western Union Transfer, or something like that), and > the "shipping agent" will contact you for the pickup. Once you've sent the > Western Union Transfer, then you will: 1)wait (in vain) for the "shipping > agent" to contact you, and 2) find (anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months later) > that the check you deposited was no good. You still have the boat, however. > Though I could use the money as I have some major unexpected vehicle expenses (need a new engine) I am not in a rush to get ripped off. At this point I don't care if it sells or not. I'll pay my debts of with honest work over time. A principle these type of folks seem to be unfamiliar with. I am quite familiar with the Nigerian millionaire dead relative scam. I ususaly respond to them with a note about their contact info having been forwarded to Interpol and wish them a happy life with a nasty room mate in crowbar hotel. I have only listed this kayak on the Paddlewise list serve, and the Qajaqusa BB so I figure he must have come across my advert on one of the two. And if he did, he likely came across others there as well. My point is to raise the red flag for others seeing the name. I just receive a note that someone else was contacted by this idividual as well. And it smelled just as fishy. regards: Michael *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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