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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:45:05 -0400
Has anyone had any experience with these 13" x 19" charts? One url for
buying them is http://www.noaachartsonline.com/ which looks like a business
site but with, apparently, a license from NOAA. The price is pretty decent
and the size is great for kayaks. They are proportionately reduced from
full-sized charts, according to the web page.


Craig Jungers
Royal City, WA
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:43:19 -0700
Craig Jungers wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with these 13" x 19" charts? One url for
> buying them is http://www.noaachartsonline.com/ which looks like a business
> site but with, apparently, a license from NOAA. The price is pretty decent
> and the size is great for kayaks. They are proportionately reduced from
> full-sized charts, according to the web page.

Very cool.  These are very practical for kayak decks.

Thanks, Craig.

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Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:46:40 -0400
At 10:45 PM 9/22/2006, Craig Jungers wrote:
>Has anyone had any experience with these 13" x 19" charts? One url for
>buying them is http://www.noaachartsonline.com/ which looks like a business
>site but with, apparently, a license from NOAA. The price is pretty decent
>and the size is great for kayaks. They are proportionately reduced from
>full-sized charts, according to the web page.

I wish I would have known about these a few weeks ago.  Mark Arnold 
stopped in the area a couple of weeks ago and we paddled on my local 
lake one day then went up to the 1000 islands for an overnight 
trip.  I had ordered a chart which combined 2 NOAA charts that 
covered the area well.  It ended up costing me about $25.  We stopped 
in a marina before we launched and found a fishermans map ($11)  that 
covered the area just as well and was smaller so I never even used 
the NOAA maps.  It looks I could have got the same coverage from 
these smaller NOAA maps for $10 and they would have fit on my deck 
without folding.

 From the NOAA site there appear to be lots of businesses that are 
licensed to sell NOAA charts and a separate list that offer the Print 
On Demand charts.  For $5 each I'll probably order several charts 
just so that I have them in my collection.

BTW,  I just spent one day with Mark Arnold paddling in the 1000 
islands then headed back home (about 2.5 hours away).  We had a real 
nice day paddle making our way around several of the islands.  We had 
a great launch spot in a protected bay (Eel bay) and swapped boat 
after getting back to the launch.  I got to give is Impex Force 3 a 
try and liked it a lot.   It would definitely be on my short list if 
I were looking to buy a versatile day/weekend boat in the 16-17.5' 
range.  I didn't get to try it in rough conditions but we ran into 
quite a bit of wind and white caps during our day paddle and Mark 
indicated that it handles those conditions well.



John Fereira
jaf30_at_cornell.edu
Ithaca, NY 
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From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_comcast.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:44:27 -0700
Thought it was funny to read this post because I just ordered one of these
on Wednesday and it came in the mail today! Pretty fast delivery.
Mine is of the Big Island of Hawaii. My opinion is you better have a big
magnifying glass to read it on your kayak! I can't read hardly any pertinent
data with the naked eye and not much more with a glass.
Looks pretty though!

Mark Sanders
http://sandmarks.home.comcast.net

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Has anyone had any experience with these 13" x 19" charts?
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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:36:06 -0700
Craig asked
>>>>>Has anyone had any experience with these 13" x 19" charts? One url for
buying them is http://www.noaachartsonline.com/ which looks like a business
site but with, apparently, a license from NOAA. <SNIP><<<<<<<

I've not seen them, but am writing to clarify a point. Publications of the
U.S. government are not copyrighted so anyone who wants can republish the
information however they see fit. No license is needed. This is not true of
the Canadian government so you are unlikely to see cheap reprints of their
charts.
Matt Broze
www.marinerkayaks.com
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From: Derek <glamourpets_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each - Richardsons
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
> information however they see fit. No license is
> needed. This is not true of
> the Canadian government so you are unlikely to see
> cheap reprints of their
> charts.

One company that produces "cheap reprints" of Canadian
charts is Richardsons.  Richardsons sells their charts
in books that cover a complete area -- like one of the
great lakes.  They state right on their web page that
they are selling "reproductions of Canadian charts."

http://www.richardsonscharts.com/

One place you can buy them by mail order is here:

http://www.nauticalmind.com/




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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] NOAA PocketCharts - $5 each - Richardsons
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:10:16 -0400
Derek wrote:

 > They state right on their web page that
 > they are selling "reproductions of Canadian charts."

I see where it says that they sell reproductions of government charts, but not 
Canadian.  There are US charts of the entire Great Lakes, including Canadian 
territorial waters, so they can reproduce those without problem.   The ones I've 
seen have not been as complete as the Canadian charts covering Canadian waters.

Mike
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