No brute strength or hip flick is necessary if one comes up laying on the back deck (or starts the wind up/unwind process from there in little steps). It can be done in slow motion with the paddlefloat and with very little effort or strength if done right. That's the point. You can learn how to do it easily with a float. By starting at the end and progressively moving forward and back again you can fairly easily figure out the way that requires very little force since you have plenty of time to experiment and at first you don't even need to put your head underwater. Most folks new to rolling can't understand the concept of hip flick either. I usually just tell them what knee/thigh to pull against the cockpit with to right the kayak. Matt Broze www.marinerkayaks.com -----Original Message----- From: tony ford [mailto:tford_at_web.de] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:45 AM To: mkayaks_at_oz.net Subject: Rolling Hello Matt, Whatever the issues with paddle floats, unless you have a reasonable hip flick, a paddle float isnt a great deal of use - a child,especially, is hardly likely to get back in the upright position by brute force (or brawn) alone.... Comments through the group if you will - my access to post mails to the group is limited. Kind regards Tony *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There have been a few occasions that I've wished that the my instructor had a clear kayak for demonstration purposes. It would have made it easy to see all of the mysterious stuff that was happening below the spray skirt. Initial rolling demonstrations were one example of this. --- Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net> wrote: > No brute strength or hip flick is necessary if one > comes up laying on the > back deck (or starts the wind up/unwind process from > there in little steps). > It can be done in slow motion with the paddlefloat > and with very little > effort or strength if done right. That's the point. > You can learn how to do > it easily with a float. By starting at the end and > progressively moving > forward and back again you can fairly easily figure > out the way that > requires very little force since you have plenty of > time to experiment and > at first you don't even need to put your head > underwater. Most folks new to > rolling can't understand the concept of hip flick > either. I usually just > tell them what knee/thigh to pull against the > cockpit with to right the > kayak. > > Matt Broze > www.marinerkayaks.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- Please limit all email attachments sent to this address to a maximum of 0.5MB. All email attachments that are larger then 0.5MB will automatically be deleted. --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 262152266, AIM: GlamourpetsD, MSN: [my email address], Yahoo Messenger: glamourpets --------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There have been a few occasions that I've wished that the my instructor had a clear kayak for demonstration purposes. It would have made it easy to see all of the mysterious stuff that was happening below the spray skirt. Initial rolling demonstrations were one example of this. --- Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net> wrote: > No brute strength or hip flick is necessary if one > comes up laying on the > back deck (or starts the wind up/unwind process from > there in little steps). > It can be done in slow motion with the paddlefloat > and with very little > effort or strength if done right. That's the point. > You can learn how to do > it easily with a float. By starting at the end and > progressively moving > forward and back again you can fairly easily figure > out the way that > requires very little force since you have plenty of > time to experiment and > at first you don't even need to put your head > underwater. Most folks new to > rolling can't understand the concept of hip flick > either. I usually just > tell them what knee/thigh to pull against the > cockpit with to right the > kayak. > > Matt Broze > www.marinerkayaks.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- Please limit all email attachments sent to this address to a maximum of 0.5MB. All email attachments that are larger then 0.5MB will automatically be deleted. --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 262152266, AIM: GlamourpetsD, MSN: [my email address], Yahoo Messenger: glamourpets --------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Derek wrote: > > There have been a few occasions that I've wished that the my > instructor had a clear kayak for demonstration purposes. > --- Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net> wrote: > > I usually just tell them what knee/thigh to pull > > against the cockpit with to right the kayak. > > > > Matt Broze The method that Matt was talking about sounds like the same method that Kent Ford demonstrates in his video, The Kayak Roll. I highly recommend it. Steve Holtzman Southern Calif *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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