Thanks for the advice on the M88. I looked at the M72 and also thought it was great, except it does not come with a AA battery back up tray, which with my limited knowledge I am thinking is a good idea to have. Do you agree? Anyone have any experience with the West Marine VHF150? Thanks again Richard *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Richard Cohen wrote: > Thanks for the advice on the M88. I looked at the M72 and also thought it > was great, except it does not come with a AA battery back up tray, which > with my limited knowledge I am thinking is a good idea to have. Good for backup, but those AA trays are not usually submersible. On multiday trips, the AA tray is good for listening to weather and other in-camp use, but be careful to check on the tray's submersible rating. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Richard Cohen wrote: >> Thanks for the advice on the M88. I looked at the M72 and also thought >> it >> was great, except it does not come with a AA battery back up tray, which >> with my limited knowledge I am thinking is a good idea to have. I bought a second battery for my M72 and carry it where I have quick access to it. So far, I haven't been on any trips long enough to require it. The M72's lithium-ion battery packs have a couple of advantages over the NiCd battery packs in my old M1: (1) Longer time between charges and (2) No self-discharge, so you can count on that spare battery having a full charge when you need it. Note: I replaced my M1 because both NiCd battery packs died, probably from lack of regular use, and replacements are no longer available, except for a third-party AA pack that probably is not waterproof. This is one disadvantage of Icom batteries: they are not interchangeable, and when Icom replaces a model they stop supporting it. On the other hand, they are solid, reliable units (aside from the battery problem I had). So I am going to keep on eye on what Icom is doing with the M72, and when they replace it, I am immediately going to buy extra batteries while they are still available. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Richard Cohen wrote: > it does not come with a AA battery back up tray, which > with my limited knowledge I am thinking is a good idea to have. In the days of NiCd and NiMH batteries, a backup was necessary on longer trips. However, with a Li Ion battery, the need is not so great. The lithium batteries do not self discharge at an appreciable rate. The M72 also has a 2AH battery and that will work full time for quite a while. As long as you don't intend on monitoring channels continuously on a trip, you should be fine. I used my M1V for several minutes a day checking weather on an almost two week trip and barely drained the battery. The M72 has about 25% more battery capacity than the M1V. I also figure that if I will be in a situation where I will definitely need a backup, I can use an SLA + charger or charge off my pump battery. A solar PV panel is also a long-term option, though a second VHF battery is cheaper. The PV panel allows charging camera and other gadgets too. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark wrote: >Thanks for the advice on the M88. I looked at the M72 >and also thought it was great, except it does not come >with a AA battery back up tray, which with my limited >knowledge I am thinking is a good idea to have. Do you >agree? G'Day Mark, I'd agree. It can't hurt to have the battery backup as well as the rechargeable. I use an ancient Garmin 725 VHF and bought a battery charge cable and AA tray for back up. This was because of an incident a few years ago on a long trip when our group split up between islands and then got caught by winds for a couple of days before we could rejoin. My rechargeale was down to its last few milliamp minutes:~) Anyway there was no excessive chat on that nights radio schedule! Also just to support Dave's comment that the tray may not be waterproof. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
PeterO wrote >I use an ancient Garmin 725 VHF and bought a >battery charge cable and AA tray for back up. G'Day, The battery charge cable was one of those units that plug into a cigarette lighter on a car dash-board. Handy because they can be adapted for use with solar panels or a 12V pump battery. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have M87's (European M88) with the battery case BP-226 as supplement. The case is specified "meets JIS waterproof specification grade 4. I have tried to emerse it into a basin, and the inside of the case and the contacts were dry afterwards. That was no JPX7 test but it did demonstrate that the case can be use - without warranty - in a humid environment. The battery case is a bit bulkier than the Li-Ion battery. The case takes 5 alkaline cells. Ni-Cd and Ni-NH are forbidden according to ICOM. Jens Viggo Moesmand Denmark "Also just to support Dave's comment that the tray may not be waterproof." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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