Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:52:44 -0800 From: "Bradford R. Crain" <crainb_at_pdx.edu> To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: [Paddlewise] health issues Re: Health issues Regarding such health issues, I think we will have to suffer with this nonsense for about another 6 weeks. After that, maybe some relief, if ducks can be put into a row! Maybe you read recently that Texas is RUSHING to bring strip mining and massive coal-burning power generating plants on-line before effective clean air regulation can be implemented. How long can you hold your breath? WHAT WE NEED IS MORE GOVmt REGULATION of our GOD GIVEN Right to desicrate the earth! Chuck Sutherland *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Wait! Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to this area of the country, having originated in the northern part of the continent. Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of other local species! After all, when was the last time you saw a dugout or cedar canoe on the Columbia? (for me, it was last March or so). An attempt to clean up discharges should be supported, if only to encourage more local native species, but the balance should be maintained! Pam Washington State A serious problem has arisen along the main stem Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest. Due to the dumping of effluent discharge into the river by industrial entities, kayakers have not been reproducing at their normal rate. If the current state of diminished reproductive rates persists, kayakers will eventually go extinct. You can help by contacting the EPA directly and demanding an investigation. Television news crews could also expose this deplorable situation. Working together, we can reverse this tragic trend, and once again have healthy vibrant populations of paddlers on the water. Bradford R. Crain *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> Wait! > Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to this area > of the country, having originated in the northern part of the continent. > Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of other local > species! > After all, when was the last time you saw a dugout or cedar canoe on the > Columbia? (for me, it was last March or so). > An attempt to clean up discharges should be supported, if only to > encourage more local native species, but the balance should be maintained! > Pam Wait again!! I spent my childhood in the high Arctic. And while it was an unique and enjoyable experience, now that I've been a (relative) southerner for about 45 years, I'm not sure that I want to return to the Arctic in order to enjoy kayaking. If I promise not to reproduce, can I be granted an exemption to paddle southern waters? Although I have reproduced, or so I'm told, the result has zero interest in kayaks. If it's not a drum that he can hit with a stick, he's not interested at all. He only interacts with other drummers (I hate to think of *that* gene pool!!) -- Darryl *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Pamvetdr_at_aol.com wrote: > Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to > this area > of the country, having originated in the northern part of the > continent. > Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of > other local > species! Then they must be eradicated! Paul Montgomery paul_at_paddleandoar.com http://paddleandoar.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: Paul Montgomery > Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to this area > of the country, having originated in the northern part of the continent. > Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of > other local species! Personally, I haven't noticed the population of sea kayakers diminishing but I do have a theory as to why it may be happening. This may turn out to be a very unpopular opinion but I have noticed the vast majority of sea yakers are typically of the politically liberal persuasion. U.S. census data clearly states that the reproduction rate for this group is less than the current U.S. average of 2.3 children, a number required to only maintain the current population, not grow it. Southern and Midwestern conservative families have a higher birth rate but have limited access to sea kayaking although I'm sure many are using plastic boats to hunt and fish with. The minorities, whose populations are mostly located in urban environments, typically, not as a rule, do not have the access or the means to invest more than $5000 in an unpopular sport. I truly hope no one takes anything I wrote as elitist, racist or political. None of it was meant to be. These are just facts or observations I have read, heard or seen from multiple data sources. For the sake of disclosure I am an environmentalist, a moderate Republican, a sea kayaker, an I have just one child. Wanna talk about a dying breed??? Don M *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Or irradiated? BRC Quoting Paul Montgomery <paul_at_paddleandoar.com>: > On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Pamvetdr_at_aol.com wrote: > > > Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to > > this area > > of the country, having originated in the northern part of the > > continent. > > Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of > > other local > > species! > > Then they must be eradicated! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
A dying species could be the result of a discharge problem for sure. Sorry, the devil made me do it. Tom Wait! Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to this area Of the country, having originated in the northern part of the continent. Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of other local Species! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It occurs that perhaps a captive breeding program run by the combined Oregon and Washington Departments of Fish and Wildlife might reverse the tide of diminished reproductive rates by kayakers due to point source pollution in the mighty Columbia. Anyone want to suggest the names of paddlers who you feel would make good brood stock and don't have to go to work? BRC Quoting Tom Buckley <nbrunner_at_telus.net>: > > A dying species could be the result of a discharge problem for sure. Sorry, > the devil made me do it. > > Tom > > > Wait! > Kayakers, though a Native American species, are not indigenous to this area > Of the country, having originated in the northern part of the continent. > Attempts to encourage their proliferation may be at the expense of other > local > Species! > > > Bradford R. Crain Department of Mathematics and Statistics Portland State University 724 SW Harrison St. 334 Neuberger Hall Portland, Or 97201 Phone: 503-725-3127 E-mail: crainb_at_pdx.edu Fax: 503-725-3661 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I would volunteer for the broodstock program except that I've undergone a certain um... medical procedure that renders my ability to procreate somewhat ineffective. Luckily, it hasn't reduced my enthusiasm for the process itself, however. Unless, of course, it interferes with kayaking or cross-country skiing. Or flying gliders. Or watching television programs that feature kayaking, x/c skiing, or gliders. Hey.... wait a minute..... And therein could be the problem. Unlike white-water kayakers who tend to be young and virile, many sea kayakers are... um... of an age... in which the testosterone fog has, shall we say.... lifted. Actually the story of my... um... procedure is a good lesson for those who are just now embarking upon a state of marital bliss. My wife and I lived some distance from town and we decided to take our male cat in for a piece of surgery that would leave him wondering just what exactly it was that made him want to go outside at night. At any rate, on the way in my wife turned to me and said, "Hey, as long as we're going in to town anyway...." and the rest is history. And I have the catnip mouse to prove this story. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA On 11/14/06, Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu> wrote: > > It occurs that perhaps a captive breeding program run by the combined > Oregon and Washington Departments of Fish and Wildlife might reverse the > tide of diminished reproductive rates by kayakers due to point source > pollution in the mighty Columbia. Anyone want to suggest the names of > paddlers who you feel would make good brood stock and don't have to > go to work? > > BRC *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers wrote: > I would volunteer for the broodstock program except that I've undergone a > certain um... medical procedure that renders my ability to procreate > somewhat ineffective. Don't worry - you can be part of the control group. All the benefits, none of the liabilities. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Bradford R. Crain wrote: > It occurs that perhaps a captive breeding program run by the combined > Oregon and Washington Departments of Fish and Wildlife might reverse > the tide of diminished reproductive rates by kayakers due to point > source pollution in the mighty Columbia. Anyone want to suggest the > names of paddlers who you feel would make good brood stock and don't > have to go to work? All the paddlers I know have not had any trouble working and "brooding," 'course, all they have produced is eggs! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It has been my observation here on the east coast that a disproportionate number of kayakers do not reproduce compared to the general population as well. Initially, I attributed it to the effects of acid rain, and the subsequent leaching of heavy metals into the water. But, even paddlers who spend most of their time in pristine waters have the same issue, so there went that theory. Plus, lots of whitewater paddlers are into heavy metal, and some of them reproduce just the same. Then I blamed global warming. Yeah, this might be it. Kayakers are venturing farther and farther north to paddle near things like icebergs, glaciers, and polar bears because the ice is melting. That brings more and more kayakers close to the magnetic effects of the north pole. And then I remembered that it never seemed to bother the inuit much. Subsequently, I attributed it to the amounts of beer that kayakers consume after a paddle. Didn't fly once I looked at reproduction rates in countries known for heavy drinking. If anything, alcohol should reverse the problem for kayakers. I then decided to investigate the social aspect of it, and see if that might be the cause. Nope, plenty of sex going on, even while kayaking according to some reliable sources. So I came back to something in the water as the likely cause. Estrogen from commercial meat consumption and subsequent sewage discharge into rivers lowering sperm counts? It would have to be in the water, because a lot of kayakers I know are vegetarians. Industrial and agricultural chemicals? Possible........Hmmmm.....this is a tough one. Then I remembered that I never reproduced............and I was glad. Maybe I won't investigate it any further, because most kayakers I know are happy people. Just think, if the whole world kayaked, overpopulation would be cured, and everyone would be happy. It could happen......really. Wayne -- Wayne Smith wsmith16_at_charter.net Check out my website! http://webpages.charter.net/wsmith16/home.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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