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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Assistance needed with definitions: flatwater - sea - open crossing
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:22:31 +1100
G'Day,

Has anyone got well referenced definitions for "Flatwater", "Sea" and "Open
crossing" in a kayaking or canoeing context?

I'm finding them suprisingly hard to find.

All the best, PeterO
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Assistance needed with definitions: flatwater - sea - open crossing
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:58:16 -0800
PeterO wrote:

>G'Day,
>
>Has anyone got well referenced definitions for "Flatwater", "Sea" and "Open
>crossing" in a kayaking or canoeing context?
>
>I'm finding them suprisingly hard to find.
>

I'm not sure how helfpul this is going to be, but you might try this 
website and use their search engine (I have no idea who set this up or 
contributed to it but it is a wiki and if you disagree with the 
definitions, you can sign up and debate the content or add to it):

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page

Some definitions:

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Type_of_kayaking

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Flatwater

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Open_water_crossing

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Sea_kayaking

http://kayakwiki.org/index.php/Touring


Cheers,

Jackie
(not a wiki person - I get all the debate I need about kayaking here)
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Assistance needed with definitions: flatwater - sea - open crossing
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:52:58 -0500
Jackie Myers wrote:

 > I'm not sure how helfpul this is going to be, but you might try this
 > website and use their search engine (I have no idea who set this up or
 > contributed to it but it is a wiki and if you disagree with the
 > definitions, you can sign up and debate the content or add to it):

That would be a lot of folks, including a number of Paddlewisers.  Nick 
Schade set up the original Kayakwiki and ran it for years.  There were 
problems with spam, so I took it over and moved it to a new, spamproofed 
platform (Mediawiki, same software as Wikipedia).  I host it on a server 
right here next to me - soon to be transferred to a new server (just 
constructed but still not fully configured), also right next to me. 
There are two 'sysops" - myself and Harry Wood.  I moderate mostly sea 
kayaking stuff and he, a British WW enthusiast, handles mostly WW. 
However, we overlap a lot on what we look at.

I initially looked at the wiki definition of flatwater and didn't like 
it so I decided not to post it here.  If someone wants to clean it up, 
they are welcome.  There are a lot of pages that could be cleaned and 
improved, but yours truly doesn't have the time to do it all.  I'd be 
embarrased to admit how many hours I've already put into it.

 > (not a wiki person - I get all the debate I need about kayaking here)

Wikis are for info, not debates.  There are discussion pages, but too 
much discussion is discouraged.

Mike
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From: Jackie Myers <jackie_at_muddypuppies.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Assistance needed with definitions: flatwater - sea - open crossing
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:11:22 -0800
Michael Daly wrote:

>
> > (not a wiki person - I get all the debate I need about kayaking here)
>
> Wikis are for info, not debates.  There are discussion pages, but too 
> much discussion is discouraged. 



I take it you haven't seen the "discussion" section for wikipedia... :-)

Thanks for the background info.  I wasn't aware of kayakwiki's history.


Jackie
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