I recently purchased a used Type III ambulance for commercial purposes. The type III ambulance has a square box (it is *NOT* a van with a raised roof). I have been pondering how I might transport a Kayak with this vehicle. The interior is too short for it to fit. I have a camping trailer, so would prefer not to have to obtain a cargo trailer specifically outfitted for kayak transporting purposes. Maybe it can't be done.... or maybe someone here has some ideas that I haven't considered. Thoughts? This is the same vehicle -- just a few years newer: http://www.demers-ambulances.com/index.php?sectionId=200&productId=50 --------------------------------------------------------------- Please limit all email attachments sent to this address to a maximum of 0.5MB. All email attachments that are larger then 0.5MB will automatically be deleted. --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 262152266, AIM: GlamourpetsD, MSN: [my email address], Yahoo Messenger: glamourpets --------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Guys around here that buy these for work vans have racks welded up for them, permanently mounted (usually to carry ladders)) Doug L >I recently purchased a used Type III ambulance for > commercial purposes. The type III ambulance has a > square box (it is *NOT* a van with a raised roof). I > have been pondering how I might transport a Kayak with > this vehicle. The interior is too short for it to > fit. I have a camping trailer, so would prefer not to > have to obtain a cargo trailer specifically outfitted > for kayak transporting purposes. Maybe it can't be > done.... or maybe someone here has some ideas that I > haven't considered. Thoughts? > > This is the same vehicle -- just a few years newer: > http://www.demers-ambulances.com/index.php?sectionId=200&productId=50 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug Lloyd wrote: > Guys around here that buy these for work vans have racks welded up for > them, permanently mounted (usually to carry ladders)) That's not a particularly high roof, either, compared to many cube vans. That should be easy to do. If you don't want a welded rack, just put attachment points on the edge of the roof or top of the side panels. Make up two cross pieces out of wood 2x4s - cedar would be good and weather resistant. Just lie them edge-on on the roof and bolt to the attachment points. Then drill the wood for eyebolts as tiedown points, make some saddles up and bolt those on. If there are cross beams in the roof, you could consider bolting into those instead of the roof edge. the only problem would be sealing any holes against rain - not unsolvable. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca> wrote: > Doug Lloyd wrote: > > Guys around here that buy these for work vans have > racks welded up for > > them, permanently mounted (usually to carry > ladders)) > > That's not a particularly high roof, either, > compared to many cube vans. > That should be easy to do. Actually, the height is about 8'. Thats a long way up. :( I could mount a kayak rack on top, but With this height the challenge is getting the kayak up to the rack. Matt Broze posted a message about how he does it on an RV. I'd have to do something similar.... though his process does sound a little bit precarious. I wonder how hard it would be to modify a Hulivator style rack to do a larger drop.... *ponders* Any more thoughts? Derek ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Derek wrote: > I wonder how hard it would be to modify a Hulivator style rack to do a > larger drop.... *ponders* Friend of mine tried that atop one of the taller Dodge Sprints (might have been taller than eight feet!), and it was hopeless. I tried to get her to use a system of lines that followed channels across the roof, so you could use body weight to pull the thing up, and tie it off when bringing it down, but she never got around to it. She lives on the east coast, and I have lost track of what she finally did. She usually surfaces out here about May, so if I see it, and it looks good, I'll report back. BTW, I'm with you on Matt's system; when the boat is high, and your arms are fully extended, you are in a tenuous position. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I thought there were problems/recalls with the Hulivator, but I'm not sure. There is a "Hulivator" like ladder lifter that the professionals use with their cube vans, but I assume they are expensive and not specific for kayak use, obviously. Matt's ideas will work; you might want to supplement with a small step ladder. Get one that has a wide base for stability. I use a small one and my vehicle is lower than yours. A well-mounted back hull roller will work too, but the ladder may be needed to finish getting the kayak up top fully and forward into the front saddle. I have seen hull rollers set up like this for aluminum fishing boats, but they are more elaborate. I see a lot of heavily modified vans around Vancouver Island - modified for camping needs. Often, they include a ladder up to the cargo-roof rack. DL > --- Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_magma.ca> wrote: > >> Doug Lloyd wrote: >> > Guys around here that buy these for work vans have >> racks welded up for >> > them, permanently mounted (usually to carry >> ladders)) >> >> That's not a particularly high roof, either, >> compared to many cube vans. >> That should be easy to do. > > Actually, the height is about 8'. Thats a long way > up. :( I could mount a kayak rack on top, but With > this height the challenge is getting the kayak up to > the rack. > > Matt Broze posted a message about how he does it on an > RV. I'd have to do something similar.... though his > process does sound a little bit precarious. > > I wonder how hard it would be to modify a Hulivator > style rack to do a larger drop.... *ponders* > > Any more thoughts? > Derek *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug Lloyd wrote: > A well-mounted back hull roller will > work too, but the ladder may be needed to finish getting the kayak up > top fully and forward into the front saddle. I have seen hull rollers > set up like this for aluminum fishing boats, but they are more elaborate. Some of the highest trucks I've seen paddlers use have these roller systems and they seem to work well. It does get awkward at the end due to the height. I saw one couple do this by lifting the bow onto the rollers, having her hold the stern while he climbs onto the roof, then she pushes while he pulls it up and forward to the front saddle. Quite a production. Makes me appreciate my little car. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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