On Friday 25 May 2007 03:33, alex wrote: > This is a compromise, Tord ;-). I like more serious approach, taken by > this gentleman: > http://alexm221100.googlepages.com/MADDOGSUE02.JPG Serious? Costly, I would say! Some US$3000 (for basic versions, without wishbone, reefing, et cetera), if we include the outboard! My sails cost me about about US$350, Mark's nice designs a BIG bit more! I love Mark's gear and will this summer use a pair of his BOSSes ($105 each!), on new, folding akas, outrigger arms, of my very own design (The material for the new akas, cost me $50) ! Similar to the one we've used a number of years, but more rigid and folding! The aka holder will be upgraded, using scrap material I've got, and the mast bottom section reinforced with a massive aluminium rod. Oh, I forgot the cam cleats: about $25 apiece here (no local manufacturer, all imported from overseas), and we need eight, or more! Yikes! (the mizzen sheet, halyard and rudder lifter, that's three, the main sail's four downhauls, halyard, lazy jacks, luff parrel, that's seven more! Rats! By colour-coding the downhauls it shall be easy to see which is which, I hope (others have done it on their boats and liked it!). Haven't got that many cam cleats, so the mizzen halyard, the lazy jacks and the standing luff parrel will have to do without. My junk sail, plus mast (not including the mast foot, as that is used even when we aren't using the main sail) weighs about 9 lbs, the mast foot, plus the aka holder, the new akas and the amas about 16 lbs ( the latter figure a clever guess as I haven't built the new akas just yet - the old weighed 5 lbs, and the rigid ama 8 lbs (with water ballast 30 lbs). > I think this is BSD 32 sq.ft *2 . Looks like it! Up to $1700 apiece (including BOSSes)! > Upwind rig, a lot of sails, can tack > upwind under the most of conditions, > not to mention downwind or crosswind. Hope to attain the same, but having less sail area it will take a little longer :-)! But I have a spinnaker, jib, and a 4.2 D-Quad - that's another 50-60 sq.ft. The D-Quad will be carried much like Mark Balogh's TWINs, so it is foremost a downwind sail. But only the spinnaker makes sense together with the junk rig - used as a ghoster, of course :-)! The junk and mizzen are somewhere around 44 + 6 sq.ft, and both reefs instantly - do Mark's beauties do that? > I don't know why he is carrying a double-bladed kayaking > paddle - on this kind of craft only one person would be able to paddle, > which would result in speeds somewhwere up to 1.5 knots (with 2 people > and outrigger). Happy to say that our rig works perfectly with two double paddles, tested and proved! Rearseat paddler has absolutely no problems ever, the front seat might have some when paddling against the wind, with the sail raised! Down the junk rig is of no worry, in stark contrast to Klepper's S4 rig! Klepper also have a complex rig galled Freewind, which is a bit like Mark's TWINs, but the Klepper offering is suspended of a paddle, using that as the mast - so if you drop your paddle you can't sail, or you might break your paddle during sailing - neither my cup of tea! > Makes more > sense carrying 2 canoe paddles instead (this is what other people are > doing on schooner-rigged trimaran doubles). With so much gear, heavy > boat and no feasible paddling options one would inevitably realize the > need to carry an outboard motor - and he carries it too. We did that for a while, but it was hardly worth the effort! We, the wife and I, have decided that when we get older and more infirm we'll get a trolling motor to get us in and out of ports! And a 22' trailer for the assembled boat! Setting up a junk sail takes a wee while - and while at it I had omitted five of the lines, but only the yard hauling parrel on purpose (the other were the three batten downhauls and the standing luff parrel. The yard hauling parrel function I've automated - without such a line most junk sails, especially those with varying length yards, battens and boom, doesn't fold up nicely - not as bad as Klepper's, though). I had hoped the weight of the battens and the sail would make the batten downhauls superfluous, but definitely not! The standing luff parrel is essential if your mast is tapering - mine isn't! Anyway, junk sails are of the raise-and-forget ilk, like an Optimist's, but with excellent reefing characteristics. The best to you all, Tord *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri May 25 2007 - 07:20:16 PDT
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