Hello! I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak and would like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate the knot. I keep sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and quickly putting the sprayskirt on impossible. Is there a way to do this (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and secure ends) with a minimum failure rate? Thanks! Pam in Washington State ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Just to get the ball rolling on this, I also have a spray skirt with a knot and ends (as Pam knows). This is, by far, the crappiest spray skirt I've ever tried but my largest whitewater spray skirt would not work with the larger cockpits of my Nimbus Telkwa. When I recently acquired a Mariner Express I found that my larger w/w sprayskirt fit that boat's cockpit rim just fine so I now only use that sprayskirt. The only downside is that I have to pull the sprayskirt higher around my chest before I get in to avoid having it jammed between my body and the side of the cockpit as I enter. Whitewater sprayskirts have an advantage (I think) of fitting better over a drytop without the annoying gaps "touring" sprayskirts leave. Plus no suspenders. Plus a deck generally designed for more rigorous activity. And no w/w sprayskirt I've ever seen has one of those adjustable borders and thus no knot and no excess. Craig Jungers Royal City, WA (temporarily in Nahcotta, WA on Willapa Bay) On 8/23/07, Pamvetdr_at_aol.com <Pamvetdr_at_aol.com> wrote: > > Hello! > I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the > shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak and > would > like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate the knot. I > keep > sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and quickly putting the > sprayskirt on impossible. > Is there a way to do this (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and > secure ends) with a minimum failure rate? > Thanks! > Pam in Washington State *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the > shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak and would > like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate the knot. I keep > sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and quickly putting the > sprayskirt on impossible. > Is there a way to do this (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and > secure ends) with a minimum failure rate? Cut off the knot and glue and sew the cord ends together with some overlapping. I didn't try this, because I think that usual "old underwear" symptom will appear at some time - the bungey will stretch irreversibly, so you'll have to cut and sew again. Make sure you know how to retrieve the end of the cord when (not if, but when) it escapes your hands and slips into the sleeve. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the > shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak and would > like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate the knot. I keep > sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and quickly putting the > sprayskirt on impossible. > Is there a way to do this (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and > secure ends) with a minimum failure rate? Here's what I would try: 1. Mark the bungee where you want to cut it 2. Pull out some slack from both sides and clamp the bungee so it can't snap back into the sleeve 3. Cut the bungee 4. Wearing gloves, use flame to melt the ends of the bungee to seal the loose ends and make the rubber part sticky 5. While the rubber is still sticky, put the ends together in a butt joint and hold until it cools 6. Cut some heavy fabric to size to make up a sleeve to go over the butt joint 7. Glue the fabric sleeve with marine goop and then sew it as well, making sure to sew through the bungee as well as along the seam of the new sleeve. Again, I haven't tried this but I think it would work. Mark Goff Hampden, ME ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pamvetdr_at_aol.com wrote: > I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the > shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak > and would like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate > the knot. I keep sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and > quickly putting the sprayskirt on impossible. Is there a way to do this > (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and secure ends) with a minimum > failure rate? Pam, I use heavy-duty cable ties, a pair of them, pulled bull-tight with pliers, on skirts where I need a low-profile way of securing the ends together. The spray skirt with this arrangement has survived about 6-7 years of use, to my surprise, so I guess it is pretty solid. Mark Goff's elegant solution is bombproof, I think, and would be even lower-profile. If the cable ties seem insecure, I'd go with his regime. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Is the bungee really so thick that a knot will not serve at all (even with the loose ends trimmed back)? If so, all the advice posted so far applies. Or is the problem in the loose ends? If a knot might work, then here's a selection used in climbing that might do well and be reliable: http://www.abc-of-rockclimbing.com/howto/learn_climbing_knots.asp ... and go to the "bends" section. Even a simplified version of what that website calls the Fisherman's Knot might work: instead of the more complex version of each half of the knot shown in the website, tie a simple overhand knot with one end around the other, and then tie another overhand knot with the other end around the first part, pull them towards each other and tight. Ralph Hoehn -----Original Message----- From: Goffma_at_aol.com Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] sprayskirt bottom shockcord knot > I have a Snapdragon sprayskirt with an adjustable edge, that is, the shock cord is fastened with a knot. I am using this only on one kayak and would like to permanently size it to this kayak alone and eliminate the knot. I keep sitting on the darn thing and it makes entry and quickly putting the sprayskirt on impossible. > Is there a way to do this (size to my kayak, cut off excess cord and secure ends) with a minimum failure rate? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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