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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:22:03 -0800
Last Saturday turned out to be a "loverly" day for trying out kayaks at 
Trial Island. Of course, rougher conditions (wind n' swell) would have 
perhaps yielded greater rewards from the perspective of testing the merits 
of each design. The Friday the day before was apparently kicking up 
something a little more worthy for those not vocationally occupied that day 
that made it down to the beach.



I assume the Vancouver-based retailer that brought over the kayaks wasn't 
necessarily - nefariously - attempting to drum up sales or create turf wars. 
More accurately, there was a deficit of advanced paddlers available on the 
mainland handy in one place in order to determine the suitability of 
carrying the new Tiderace line in earnest by the retailer, subject to 
gauging the response of seasoned paddlers; whereas in Victoria, our 
proximity to moving saltwater creates a surfeit of savvy paddlers. Now if 
only our retailers would carry a more worthwhile variety of serious day 
boats.



The Tiderace Xcite lived up to the hype fully. This distinguishable 
Romanyesq-handling playboat carved turns with ease, imparted reassuring 
stability while moving up to cruising speed remarkably fast. The kayak was 
born to surf, and born to catch and ride waves in the tideraces it is so 
aptly named for. Perhaps the forward buoyancy affords the same type of 
performance floatation that a Mariner Coaster is famous for. Further testing 
in rock gardens and surf zones would be needed to confirm this.



The lines of the kayak suggest serious business will be undertaken by anyone 
jumping into it. The oddly high foredeck sheds water easily, while allowing 
a very ergonomically pleasing knee placement that I hadn't enjoyed in 
similar classes of playboats I've sat in. The coming thigh braces were 
extremely relaxing and at the same time, provided unyielding purchase out in 
the lumpy stuff - something to seriously consider in a kayak you contemplate 
staying ensconced plying rougher waters. This is the first time I've felt 
secure in a keyhole cockpit , formerly only enjoying the security perception 
in an Oceancockpit equipped kayak.



The seat was adjustable fore and aft, though not quickly movable like the 
Mariner line. The backband didn't give the comfort and performance suggested 
by the rest of the outfitting, but I didn't take the time to play with the 
adjustments. The adjustable full-width footpad- footrest ergonomically 
dovetailed perfectly with the seating arrangement and knee placement. 
Unfortunately, custom bulkheads cannot be ordered at this time, possibly 
necessitating some wasted space for shorted-legged sea yakers. This is the 
first sea kayak I've never sat in before that I was able to get in and not 
have any qualms about some quirk of instability or misgiving about handling 
or secure fit prior to cutom outfitting



On edge, the Xcite felt like the water below had instantly frozen solid, 
locking the kayak comfortably on edge. This kayak will take care of you. 
Broaching was negligible, edge to edge movement easily invoked but secondary 
stability solid. Rolled easily, though still a bit high-volume-like around 
the back of the cockpit. There was nothing to really not recommend the 
handling of this boat. No glaring faults. The slightly longer Xplore felt a 
little more surefooted for the open water enthusiasts when comparing the two 
sister kayaks, just as the NDK Explorer would be compared to the Romany, I'm 
sure. The Xcite turned on edge on the spot rather adroitly, considering the 
end-of-keel skeg extension astern. At speed, the stern skeg extesion digs 
in, holding the kayak in line. The Keritek drop-skeg augmented the 
directional stability further, without the daftly laid-out, overly large 
skeg box other kayaks are infamous for.



Fit, finish, and construction are nothing short of world class and so very 
far beyond anything found in cottage-industry produced boats like the NDK's. 
Things like the 30cm strip of carbon fiber running the keel inside the hull, 
the dual composite (?) outer hull-to-deck join, the superior gelcoating and 
distinct colour motifs, and the Rockpool Alaw/Alaw Bach inspired refined 
lines, including the foredeck hatch and other KajakSport hatches make the 
pricetag of sub $4,000.00 very worthwhile, though still not as good a deal 
as the Canadian Impex line of kayaks.



The foredeck height might be an issue for short-torsoed paddlers, though 
where the flat foredeck peak plateau ends, there is little impediment for 
the high-angle stroke paddler. The narrow bezel of the cockpit rim does seem 
to force a careful manipulation of the sprayskirt to make the full perimeter 
seal. I should mention that adjusting the seat may have advantages for 
obtaining optimal trim or increasing cockpit-accessible item volume behind 
the seat/backband.



Little details may or may not be important to the individual paddler, but 
certainly the overall perception these Tidrace kayaks invoke suggests they 
are every bit as good as the hype/advertising suggests. This may be coming 
from a paddler who doesn't profess any prowess with boat reviews, submits 
this review with full disclosure of the former, but nevertheless, one who 
knows a good thing when he sits in one after 28 years of paddling.and 
paddles away in it to the tiderace...



Doug Lloyd

Victoria BC
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:35:08 -0800
Doug Lloyd wrote:

> [sniperoo] ... a surfeit of savvy paddlers ...

Now I know what to call a horde of sea kayakers:  "We were mobbed by a 
surfeit of paddlers, ugly as sin and covered in seaslime, not a Johnny Depp 
amongst the excess of Keith Richards clones ..."

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:36:41 -0800
> Doug Lloyd wrote:
>
>> [sniperoo] ... a surfeit of savvy paddlers ...
>
> Now I know what to call a horde of sea kayakers:  "We were mobbed by a 
> surfeit of paddlers, ugly as sin and covered in seaslime, not a Johnny 
> Depp amongst the excess of Keith Richards clones ..."
>
> -- 
> Dave Kruger
> Astoria, OR

So Herr Kruger,

I suppose there are better synonyms than "surfeit" in describing the 
proliferation of local elite paddling rabble, but indeed, when one considers 
the number of paddlers that showed up the Friday and Saturday to merely 
"kick tires" rather than actually try out "kick-ass" kayaks on the water in 
the overfalls, one wonders if that particular satiation left the 
demonstrator feeling crapulous himself.

Anyway, glad to add to your west coast paddling lexicon. Anytime I can be of 
service...

BTW, there weren't too many ugly paddlers in evidence Saturday, though there 
were a few who couldn't even fit into any of the kayaks present and I heard 
one did capsize and bail. There was, however, a high level of skill from all 
evidence: perfect paddlemanship on display at every splash, incredible 
stroke rates, unyielding cadence, kayak movement like fine ballet, beautiful 
balance braces like that from MJ from PW - and others, and subtle shifts 
from carbon Greenland sticks. The only thing ugly there was my beat-up, 
stripped down Nordcrapp that was being size/shape-compared to the LV, and my 
ugly, uninspired paddling strokes - not pretty, but still effective.

Well, my daughter just handed me a 50th Birthday card with a canine on its 
back, says: You're at that age...Where "roll over and play dead" is less of 
a trick and more of a major concern! I'm glad I hit fifty and that I never 
rolled over in my kayak and became dead. Tried a few times. So Dave, am I an 
official grey beard now, or does that start at 60 what with 50 being the new 
40 and all that?

Doug Lloyd 
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From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:52:44 -0800
Hey, I resemble that remark! Actually, at 250lbs, I'm surprised at some of
the boats I can get myself into. Now, watching me extricate myself from them
isn't a pretty site, but that's why they invented the wet exit.
I enjoyed reading your reviews of the Tiderace kayaks; they even have a big
boy version I can dream of owning. I also checked out the Impex line, as you
accredited to them a factor I find important--affordability. Their
Susquehanna looks like a playful boat. It suggests a max paddler weight of
210, but I wonder if I never plan to load it with gear if it could hold my
extra weight. I'm tired of riding so high on the water; I want a low volume
submarine kayak.

Mark Sanders

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Doug Lloyd

Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One

...though there were a few who couldn't even fit into any of the kayaks
present...
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From: James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:10:19 -0500
OK, who can correctly pronounce Susquehanna on the first try? I grew  
up in PA and so bow out as a ringer. How about Schuylkill? Second is  
a great sculling river. No, the other kind of sculling.

On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:52 PM, Mark Sanders wrote:

> Their Susquehanna looks like a playful boat.

Jim et al
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:50:42 -0800
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote:
<snippity>

 So Dave, am I an
> official grey beard now, or does that start at 60 what with 50 being the
> new
> 40 and all that?
>
>
> 50??? 50!!!! Dang! I wish *I* were 50 again. Ahhhhh the things I could do.
:)


Craig Jungers
Exactly one month to 65 in...
Moses Lake, WA
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:16:11 -0800
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Doug Lloyd  wrote:

> So Dave, am I an official grey beard now, or does that start at 60 what
> with 50 being the new 40 and all that?

Doug, you were born a greybeard.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:28:39 -0800
   Other than that, Mr. Lloyd, how did you like the boat?

Brad (Not in Moses Lake)

Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>:

> Last Saturday turned out to be a "loverly" day for trying out kayaks at
> Trial Island. Of course, rougher conditions (wind n' swell) would have
> perhaps yielded greater rewards from the perspective of testing the
> merits of each design. The Friday the day before was apparently kicking
> up something a little more worthy for those not vocationally occupied
> that day that made it down to the beach.
>
Okay Mr. Bratford Cranium, I still prefered me being in the new Nordkapp LV 
as shown here:

http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287372743/

http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287348397/

I like the lower profile of my older Nordy even better:

http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287359453/

And, who said kayakers eschew technology 'cause that's why they paddle? 
Evidence otherwise:

http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2288154412/

DL
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 08:45:26 -0800
   I think Doug's fascination with boats and water can be explained with
one simple sentence. He is part man and part sealion.

Brad (slaving over a hot desk in Puddletown)

Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>:

>   Other than that, Mr. Lloyd, how did you like the boat?
>
> Brad (Not in Moses Lake)
>
> Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>:
>
>> Last Saturday turned out to be a "loverly" day for trying out kayaks at
>> Trial Island. Of course, rougher conditions (wind n' swell) would have
>> perhaps yielded greater rewards from the perspective of testing the
>> merits of each design. The Friday the day before was apparently kicking
>> up something a little more worthy for those not vocationally occupied
>> that day that made it down to the beach.
>>
> Okay Mr. Bratford Cranium, I still prefered me being in the new
> Nordkapp LV as shown here:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287372743/
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287348397/
>
> I like the lower profile of my older Nordy even better:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2287359453/
>
> And, who said kayakers eschew technology 'cause that's why they paddle?
> Evidence otherwise:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/chaffneue/2288154412/
>
> DL



-- 
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Department of Mathematics & Statistics
Portland State University
724 SW Harrison St./334 Neuberger Hall
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:12:09 -0800
   Other than that, Mr. Lloyd, how did you like the boat?

Brad (Not in Moses Lake)
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Trials at Trial Island - Part One
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:26:38 -0800
Don't know about me being part sealion, but my daughter walked in while I 
was watching a kayak DVD (Pacific Horizons) last night, whereupon seeing 
Dubside asked innocently if he was a hobo! Guess the walking along the train 
tracks image didn't help.



>   I think Doug's fascination with boats and water can be explained with
one simple sentence. He is part man and part sealion.

Brad (slaving over a hot desk in Puddletown)<

DL 
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