Craig and all, I sometimes check in to see what Andrew has to say about things on his Dash Point Pirate blog. Here is what he says about the SPOT: http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com/the_dash_point_pirate_woo/2008/09/spot-satellite-personal-tracker-deception-pass-epic-fail.html Cheers, Rob G -----Original Message----- From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> To: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> Cc: glamourpets_at_yahoo.com; paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:57 pm Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Don't loose yer' gear! Don't loose yer' Kayak! On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Tough being a modern kayaker, isn't it? Where does my SPOT go, where do I > get good signal, did my signal get through? Should I take my glove off and > get my finger wet and cold or drown? :-) > That can actually be a real dilemma. Sometimes small things (like taking off your glove and then spending time trying to put it back on again) can make significant impacts. Loss of focus at a critical point. Unable to brace effectively, etc. Times have certainly changed. Thirty years ago I didn't even bother to take a compass. Jeans and a wool shirt were my immersion gear. A $3 plastic poncho was the rain gear. I had war-surplus duffle bags for some of my gear and the rest was stowed in climbing rucksacks in the FolBot. But we weren't out playing in rock gardens in the surf either. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Well, well. Isn't that interesting. Since there was water inside his SPOT (and that caused it to fail) and since the SPOT just *has* to be water tight to 3 feet or 30 minutes, then he *must* have abused it by either having it under water longer or deeper. Case closed. Their refusal to grant Andrew a replacement unit under their return policy sounds like Catch-22 to me. If it's broken, you must have abused it, because we don't think it can be broken. Unless they test every single unit for immersion resistance to their standard, this ploy is obviously wrong and their attitude is sufficient for me to not buy one. If you already have a SPOT make sure that if you roll it stays dry. Because if it fails you are not just in trouble, but you will be out a SPOT unit as well. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WQA On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:59 AM, <rcgibbert_at_aol.com> wrote: > Craig and all, > > I sometimes check in to see what Andrew has to say about things on his Dash > Point Pirate blog. Here is what he says about the SPOT: > > > http://dashpointpirate.typepad.com/the_dash_point_pirate_woo/2008/09/spot-satellite-personal-tracker-deception-pass-epic-fail.html > > Cheers, > > Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Craig Jungers wrote: > Well, well. Isn't that interesting. Since there was water inside his SPOT > (and that caused it to fail) and since the SPOT just *has* to be water tight > to 3 feet or 30 minutes, then he *must* have abused it by either having it > under water longer or deeper. Case closed. As one of the respondents on Andrew's site said, "That blows!" Later on in the responses, I think Andrew indicated SPOT offered him a new one for $600, inasmuch as his subscription is valid for a while yet. In contrast, other manufacturers of marine electronics honor that water intrusion rating. Garmin will replace the first GPS you get wet internally. Not sure about the second one. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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