Here's where I sit on this: Al Gore notwithstanding, the overwhelming majority of real, working scientists involved in the issue agree that it's very likely that mankind is not helping. And, in general, they don't seem to have a stake in the matter. ****************************************************************** I'd like to know which promotors have no stake, since they all draw a paycheck (note quote below) Consensus of people paid to come to a conclusion is hardly meaningful. Scandal surrounds the list of consensus scientist who have had to sue to get their names off the list Government money buys the results it wants, same as industry money buys what it wants. Your lake may be frozen a month late, but Louisiana has a cold snap earliest in reliable recorded history, since 1850, so what do you make of that? I won't even mention the northern states being colder. Try this http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecor d_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6 UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims Study: Half of warming due to Sun! Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History' excerpted: Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly.As a scientist I remain skeptical. - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years. But the High Profit Al Gore said this past weekend that in 5 years the ice will be gone. We can wait it out and find out if this is all true. His 'carbon footprint' and his desire to sell 'carbon offsets' is proof enough to me what he really believes in: his fame and personal fortune. Note he did not win a Pulitzer in science. In the mean time, I am in favor of cleaning up our messes, but I am not in favor of ruining the economy for a pie-in-the-sky idea that lacks merit on the face of it. This idea is all ready costing California a bundle. With the new Prez, we can expect more consequences. for your amusement"Southern California may see sub-freezing temperatures Los Angeles Times, by Andrew Blankstein from a denier, making some interesting points that need to be answered by the promotors: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/the_real_climate_deniers.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Dec 16 2008 - 12:26:46 PST
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