In an email from Mike Euritt earlier today, Al Gore was quoted as saying, ".......that in five years the ice will be gone." I am reminded of a similarly dramatic statement written by Harold Camping, a bible scholar, who predicted that the Second Coming of Christ, and the end of the world, would take place in 1994 and authored a book titled "1994?" I have no doubt that Mr. Camping was most sincere in his belief and though he probably made some money from the book's sale I also doubt that he wrote it primarily for a profit. And last time I looked (excuse me while I glance out the window.......ah, yes ! ) the world was still here. That's good because I hope to start the year 2009 right by going paddling on New Years Day. Though I am 82, I also hope to still be around five years from now to see if there's any ice left, or whether Mr. Gore, like Harold Camping, was off a little in his predictions. It does occur to me, however, that if Gore is right, I may be able to launch my kayak from my own beach front property here in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada. And Mark Sanders, et.al. may have to scramble for property in the Sierra Madre. :} Dave, the Ol' Kayaker *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have not seen the Al Gore quotation in context, but I think it likely he was referring to summer ice in the Arctic Ocean, not to all the ice on the planet. Not so long ago climatologists thought it would take decades for Arctic summer sea ice to disappear, but the dwindling of the ice has been so dramatic that some now think it could happen in five to ten years. Forget the current cold snap; weather is not climate. Last year was still one of the ten warmest on record. Svante Arrhenius was the first to warn, about a hundred years ago, that a sufficient increase in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could warm the planet. Other scientists, with more data, have been making the same prediction for the last 30 to 40 years. As far as I am concerned their warnings are justified by the current warming. Now it's up to the skeptics to show unequivocally that the warming is caused by something else. However, from what I know of the arguments, each skeptic seems to have a different hypothesis. That is, there is no consensus among the skeptics as to what is causing the warming comparable to that among climatologists about the role of carbon dioxide and other gasses such as methane. Chuck Holst __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3700 (20081217) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Having absolutly nothing to do at work today, i composed a masterpiece of off topic GW related thoughts, denying thoughts, but because this is really off topic, as a good citizen of the board, I didn't send it. instead have some fun with this excerpt: here is a website that has cataloged and linked to everything blamed on global warming: http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm A complete list of things caused by global warming enjoy it is really quite amusing, he has a similar list of everything that causes cancer, according to experts. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Wow, I rescind my earlier skepticism. I didn't realize global warming was going to threaten haggis production!!! Some things ARE worth fighting for!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Mike Euritt here is a website that has cataloged and linked to everything blamed on global warming: http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm A complete list of things caused by global warming enjoy it is really quite amusing, he has a similar list of everything that causes cancer, according to experts. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark Sanders wrote: >Wow, I rescind my earlier skepticism. I didn't realize global warming was >going to threaten haggis production!!! Some things ARE worth fighting for!! > > I guess the "cruelty free environment and nice death" measures came too late... SNP To Promote Cruelty Free Haggis http://newsbiscuit.com/board/18/74/7//SNP-to-promote-cruelty-free-haggis.html Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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