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From: Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:55:13 -0800
As I modestly catch up to some of the real kayakers out there, being as I
now have five boats in my garage, I'm realizing too many boats can keep you
from kayaking!!!
I'm not the neatest person, but at least Kristi thanked me the other day for
leaving enough room in our garage for her car. It's not easy, but it seems
most of the garages in our neighborhood have no room for one! But with the
GTS in limbo and my new RPM Max lacking a permanent spot, I can't get to my
kayak stuff very easily and it has kept me from kayaking on more than one
occasion. My surf boat is especially hard to get to, so I've passed on a
couple possible San O days. But I've spent the morning trying to rectify the
situation and at least have found a nice spot in the rafters for the Max
where I can still get to it easy enough. If I can sell the GTS, the ol'
Delfin will be right there beckoning me to take it out in the surf and I
know Ken is just dying to join me in the gnarly soup!
I think once I get my 100 days on the year, the Lollygagger will officially
be up for sale; time for a new boat on the new year.

Mark
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:08:42 -0800
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Mark Sanders <sandmarks_at_ca.rr.com> wrote:

> As I modestly catch up to some of the real kayakers out there, being as I
> now have five boats in my garage, I'm realizing too many boats can keep you
> from kayaking!!!


Oh I love it when newbies notice that they have a few kayaks. The naive hope
that they might actually sell one still springs in their breast.  Those of
us with a few more miles under our but... er, keels have long since realized
that selling a kayak eats into kayaking time to a much greater extent than
simply keeping them in the rafters, under the house, on a spare car roof, or
- in at least two cases - in the living room.

You see, to sell a kayak you have to put an ad on, presumably, craigslist or
eBay or paddling.net and then hang around and answer email and - worse yet -
phone calls. And then you have to hang around some more on those weekends of
perfect paddling to show some lookey-loo your wonderful boat and hear about
how (s)he has looked at 14 boats in the past week and yours was the most
expensive and least comfortable... and why does it (or doesn't it) have a
rudder? Oh, and do you have a diet coke? And do you think there is enough
room in the cockpit for me and my dog?

All for a couple of hundred bucks which we know we'll just blow on paddles,
a new rescue-PFD (excuse me... "lifejacket"... after 20 years of trying to
get us to change the USCG now wants us to go back), or a down payment on a
drysuit.

After more than 3 decades of paddling I have enough boats to outfit a
good-sized Boy Scout Troop. I look at my collection as a badge of honor.
After I'm gone my wife can sell most of them off. I won't care much...

But I'm taking at least two of them with me.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:11:53 -0500
Craig Jungers wrote:
> Oh I love it when newbies notice that they have a few kayaks. The naive hope
> that they might actually sell one still springs in their breast.

Not to mention their wives', if I might be excused for mentioning your 
wife's...umm, you know.

The things that bothers me a little is when someone innocently asks "How 
many boats do you have?" and after a few seconds of my vacant stare in 
return follows up with "Hello? I asked you how many boats you have?" 
Then I have to say "Wait a minute, I'm counting," which of course makes 
me lose count. And I never know whether to count the 1972 Munich Olympic 
slalom boat, 'cause it doesn't get paddled, or the three boats our 
friend boards at our house.

Steve
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Athens, GA
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:06:40 -0500
Steve Cramer wrote:
> Craig Jungers wrote:
>> Oh I love it when newbies notice that they have a few kayaks. The 
>> naive hope
>> that they might actually sell one still springs in their breast.
>
> Not to mention their wives', if I might be excused for mentioning your 
> wife's...umm, you know.
>
> The things that bothers me a little is when someone innocently asks 
> "How many boats do you have?" and after a few seconds of my vacant 
> stare in return follows up with "Hello? I asked you how many boats you 
> have?" Then I have to say "Wait a minute, I'm counting," which of 
> course makes me lose count. And I never know whether to count the 1972 
> Munich Olympic slalom boat, 'cause it doesn't get paddled, or the 
> three boats our friend boards at our house. 
You board boats? 
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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:26:46 -0500
John Fereira wrote:
> You board boats?

Arrrgh, doesn't everybody?

Actually, we got her into paddling, but she doesn't have any storage 
space, so her Kevlar Sparrow Hawk is in my boat shed. Gives the place a 
touch of class. Then she bought boats for her granddaughters (OK, I 
bought them with her $$) and they needed a place to live, too.

I'd be glad to board your OI, John, but it's a heck of a long shuttle.

Steve

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From: <SNStone_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:09:45 EST
Think of it another way. Tell wife self is boarding other people's kayaks.  
Keep buying new kayaks, selling some, but either way wife believes kayaks are  
not self's. This strategy also works for tools - yes wife I borrowed tool from 
 fred!!!  
sid

 
 
I'd be glad to board your OI, John, but it's a heck of a long  shuttle.

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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:15:14 -0500
This one works best if they are all the same color. Hard to keep count 
that way.

SNStone_at_aol.com wrote:
> Think of it another way. Tell wife self is boarding other people's 
> kayaks. Keep buying new kayaks, selling some, but either way wife 
> believes kayaks are not self's. 
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Athens, GA
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:25:54 -0800
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:09 PM, <SNStone_at_aol.com> wrote:

> Think of it another way. Tell wife self is boarding other people's kayaks.
> Keep buying new kayaks, selling some, but either way wife believes kayaks
> are
> not self's.


That is sneaky and underhanded!!!

I like it. :)


Craig
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From: <Pamvetdr_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Winter Musings
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:12:11 EST
I thought people might be interested in knowing that I did NOT buy another 
kayak today. Even though it fit me. Mostly.
    This is an older skin on frame with a treated canvas cover, looks as if 
someone painted it so a new skin is in it's future. Cockpit is 20 inches by 17 
inches, ribs, no seat. At my height of 5" 4", the first upper deck support I 
encountered going forward worked very well as a foot brace. However, I actually 
had to back out of the boat a bit (put my hands on the cockpit rim and pull 
myself up) to move one foot from pointing left to pointing right. Can you say 
"Low deck"? Beam at deck was 23 inches (maybe 22 1/2. widest just forward of 
the cockpit) but a lot smaller at the waterline. Hard chine design. 17 foot 
length. It handled well though didn't turn as smartly as some, not a huge amount 
of rocker.
    So, I decided to try and roll it. Realize that I now have successfully 
rolled on seven separate days (I promise to stop counting when I run out of 
fingers) so I'm not a pro. And, the owner didn't have a sprayskirt and the cockpit 
rim didn't have a lip to put one on, anyway. So, after a talk with the owner 
("I can hold my breath for 45 seconds, so if I've done two tries and am 
underwater that long, I'd appreciate a rescue" answer, "OK, I'll give it a couple of 
minutes") I missed my first attempt, missed my second attempt, decided to wet 
exit, and my shoe hung up on the bottom rib.  Well, this was not unexpected, 
and one reason I wear roomy shoes is that they come off easily. One good yank 
and I was out.
     I'm still tempted to buy it. But, thinking of getting a boat that has to 
stay in the living room, needs work, and I should only paddle in company, 
discouraged me.
    If anyone in the Seattle, Washington area would like more info, email me. 
I have photos and the price is only $400. I have the owners number. Save me 
from changing my mind!
        Drat, good judgment wins again!
                  Pam in Washington State
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