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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:08:07 4
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News Release	 
Date: February 12, 2009
Contact: LCDR Emily Saddler
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Coast Guard announces Notice of Proposed Rulemaking 
establishing Regulated Navigation Areas along the Oregon and 
Washington coasts



SEATTLE - The Coast Guard published a notice of proposed 
rulemaking Thursday that would establish Regulated Navigation 
Areas along the Oregon and Washington coasts.

The proposed rule would amend Coast Guard regulations at Title 33 
Code of Federal Regulations Part 165, Subpart F, specifically 
adding Section 165.1322, which would establish Regulated 
Navigation Areas along the Oregon and Washington coasts 
encompassing the coastal inlets and rivers that have hazardous 
bars.

The proposed rule would establish clear procedures for restricting
recreational and uninspected passenger vessel traffic from crossing 
a hazardous bar within the Regulated Navigation Area. The 
proposed rule would also establish clear procedures for closing 
hazardous bars within the Regulated Navigation Area to all vessels 
during severe environmental conditions. In addition, the proposed 
rule would establish additional safety requirements for recreational 
and small commercial vessels to comply with during certain 
hazardous conditions. This proposed rule would mitigate the
risks associated with the bars and enhance the safety of the 
persons and vessels operating on and in the vicinity of them.

The Coast Guard encourages the public to view the final rule at 74 
FR 7022
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-2592.pdf and to 
participate in this rulemaking by submitting comments and related 
materials to the docket at http://www.regulations.gov, docket 
number: USCG-2008-1017.  All comments received will be posted, 
without change.


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From: James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:53:28 -0500
On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:04 AM, skimmer wrote:

> The proposed rule would establish clear procedures for restricting
> recreational and uninspected passenger vessel traffic from crossing
> a hazardous bar


Serious question. Is a kayak a vessel in the eyes of the Coast Guard?

Jim et al
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:47:35 -0800
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:53 AM, James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net>wrote:

>
> Serious question. Is a kayak a vessel in the eyes of the Coast Guard?
>

Is the Coast Guard a bureaucracy? I'm guessing that if you rode a floating
log across a river bar the USCG would rule that as being a "vessel". If for
no other reason than such a ruling  would enhance their bureaucratic powers.
The question to me is whether the USCG (whcih, by the way, can already close
bars to boat traffic) would be willing to understand how kayaks can safely
play in waters that other vessels cannot.

Although, quite frankly, when the Colulmbia River Bar is closed no one would
want to go out and play in it.

Ok... maybe Doug Lloyd... but no one *sane*. :P

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:51:44 -0800
Craig Jungers wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:53 AM, James Farrelly wrote:
> 
>> Serious question. Is a kayak a vessel in the eyes of the Coast Guard?
>> 
> Is the Coast Guard a bureaucracy? I'm guessing that if you rode a
> floating log across a river bar the USCG would rule that as being a
> "vessel".

Yup.  We are vessels.  Paddlers who transit the inner portion of the 
Columbia River Bar area for formal training purposes (BCU classes, etc.) 
usually check in with the Cape Disappointment station.  The Coasties there 
seem to understand and appreciate what we do ... their duty being to pilot 
surf boats.

In reality, we would be pretty far under their radar.  I did not check the 
limits for the CR bar carefully, but I think Jetty A would be an inner 
limit, so that you could transit the Ilwaco channel and go around Sand 
Island without worry.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:23:41 +0000
A kayak is a vessel according to the CG. 

Steve Holtzman
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:41:57 -0800
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net> wrote:

> A kayak is a vessel according to the CG.
>
>
You wrote that pretty well... I always heard you were "all thumbs".  :P

Craig
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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] USCG rule making
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:27:39 +0000
Instead of arm paddling, I thumb paddle. 

Steve Holtzman
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