Pam sent this to me. http://www.king5.com/video/featured-index.html?nvid=342526 It's video of the crew from a Washington State ferry launching an inflatable sport boat and rescuing a kayaker who was hanging on to his British-style kayak. Someone on shore saw the paddler trying to re-enter his kayak in rough water and called it in. The ferry responded and diverted to rescue him. Hard to tell but it looks like he had a farmer john but one of his boots has come off. Wearing a PFD at least. Hard to tell what sort of immersion protection he had but he was able to move to the bow of the sport boat and sit down... and walked ashore. His kayak was apparently left out there. High price to pay for a morning paddle but not as high as it could have been. I have no idea how long he was in the water but the temperature of Puget Sound saltwater this time of year has to be in the low 40s or less. Craig Jungers Moses Lake, WA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Craig Jungers wrote: > Hard to tell but it looks like he had a farmer john but one of his > boots has > come off. Wearing a PFD at least. Hard to tell what sort of immersion > protection he had but he was able to move to the bow of the sport > boat and > sit down... and walked ashore. I spotted the problem immediately. He was paddling a purple boat. Boy that water looked cold. I would love to have someone interview that guy and find out what happened. Cold meds kick in? Missed a roll? Bad day? Wallet bigger than skills? I changed my cold weather outfit after my You Tube practice session. I substituted 3 mm neo pants for dry pants and added fleece. I wore my altered outfit to a surf class last weekend. I spent two five hour days in/on the water. I was very comfortable the entire time. My foam lined helmet really added to my warmth. My pain in training seems to have raised my awareness and paid off. http://savannahcanoeandkayak.blogspot.com/ Thats me in the middle. I was the least skilled student in the class. It was a lot of fun and very humbling. We had a very strict British instructor. Like Turner Wilson our instructor demanded a lot from us, gave more than he demanded and left us much better than he found us. I look forward to trying my new skills in Nicks surf boat. Tough days require tough training. I just wish there was an easy way to be prepared. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 3/18/09, James Farrelly <JFarrelly5_at_comcast.net> wrote: > > > I spotted the problem immediately. He was paddling a purple boat. LOL Boy that water looked cold. I would love to have someone interview > that guy and find out what happened. Cold meds kick in? Missed a > roll? Bad day? Wallet bigger than skills? Be very interesting to hear the answer to that. He wasn't paddling a cheap boat but it wasn't obvious to me that he had a lot of fancy gear. Prepared enough to have a paddle float and have it deployed. I wonder why he gave up. I changed my cold weather outfit after my You Tube practice session. > I substituted 3 mm neo pants for dry pants and added fleece. I wore > my altered outfit to a surf class last weekend. I spent two five hour > days in/on the water. I was very comfortable the entire time. My foam > lined helmet really added to my warmth. My pain in training seems to > have raised my awareness and paid off. Did you get the Kokatat Tropos Bib drypants? My pair burned up in the shop fire 3 weeks ago but I had already bought an NRS Extreme drysuit (for $50 at NRS in their bargain loft.. my wife spotted it... tag read "booties leak"... looked brand new... Aquaseal fixed the booties). I like the drysuit mostly because I no longer have to struggle with ankle gaskets. God I hated those!! Hard to get on and even harder to get off. I had to have an entire restaurant help me once. Very embarassing. > > I look forward to trying my new skills in Nicks surf boat. Did you build one from a kit? Pam and I are doing Brian's F1 class in May ( www.capefalconkayaks.com). The photos on Brian's web pages show him sitting neutral on a wave surfing just fine without a paddle blade in the water. Most impressive. Be fun to compare stories. Tough days require tough training. I just wish there was an easy way > to be prepared. I am now wondering just how I managed to survive so many years of being on the water in jeans and a tee-shirt. Of course, mostly on rivers now that I think about it. An easy swim to shore once you get to the pool. And the sea kayaks 30 years ago were pretty stable; at least initially. Even so......... Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
If you watch the inflatable closely as it leaves the kayak, with the victim aboard, you can see it is towing the paddle float along with it. Ostensibly, the paddle was attached to it (or, maybe the paddler?). Subsequently, as he is handed off to the shoreside rescue folks, the paddle float is gone. Maybe he lost his paddle, which is why he was swimming to shore? -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
He's lost it by now, I'd guess. I think towing is not the right verb there. Looks more like the inflatable ran over the paddle and dragged it along for a while. Watch between 1:30 and 1:40 and you can see the un-flotated blade moving under the inflatable. Nobody picked it up or put a line on it. By the time they reached shore, the paddle was gone, no surprise. Steve Dave Kruger wrote: > If you watch the inflatable closely as it leaves the kayak, with the > victim aboard, you can see it is towing the paddle float along with it. > Ostensibly, the paddle was attached to it (or, maybe the paddler?). > Subsequently, as he is handed off to the shoreside rescue folks, the > paddle float is gone. > > Maybe he lost his paddle, which is why he was swimming to shore? > -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA http://www.savvypaddler.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave, I've re-watched this video several times and now in full screen mode. It appears that the inflatable was not towing the paddle and float (they're still attached), but rather they just got caught up with the raft. When they landed, there was no paddle or float, so I assume, it just got untangled and left all on its own. Steve Holtzman Southern California __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3946 (20090318) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
With a paddlefloat reentry roll and an electric bilge pump, he would have been right on his merry way! Mark -----Original Message----- Tough days require tough training. I just wish there was an easy way to be prepared. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark Sanders wrote: > With a paddlefloat reentry roll and an electric bilge pump, he would have > been right on his merry way! Well, at least he would have been upright for a while. The seas looked moderate to me. Maybe 3-footers, but not gnarly at all. Apparently he went over in that stuff; getting upright is just the first step. Staying upright would be his next battle. His story would be illuminating, I suspect. Hope we get it. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When Richard Cohen was out here for a paddle, he was telling me about how great Tybee Island is to paddle. I hope to make it out there one day! Mark -----Original Message----- http://savannahcanoeandkayak.blogspot.com/ Thats me in the middle. I was the least skilled student in the class. It was a lot of fun and very humbling. We had a very strict British instructor. Like Turner Wilson our instructor demanded a lot from us, gave more than he demanded and left us much better than he found us. I look forward to trying my new skills in Nicks surf boat. Tough days require tough training. I just wish there was an easy way to be prepared. Jim et al *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Many thanks to Chris for providing this link showing a bit more of the story and some behind the scenes stuff. aka: Christopher Cunningham Sea Kayaker magazine _http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015_ (http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015) Pam in Washington State **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433363x1201394532/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212935224%3B34245239%3Bb) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pamvetdr_at_aol.com wrote: > Many thanks to Chris for providing this link showing a bit more of the story > and some behind the scenes stuff. > aka: > Christopher Cunningham > Sea Kayaker magazine > _http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015_ > (http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015) Can't get that link to work. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Address had one too many dots.... http://westseattleblog.com/blog/?p=15015 > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:15:29 -0700 > From: kdruger_at_pacifier.com > To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Video of a kayak rescue in Puget Sound > > Pamvetdr_at_aol.com wrote: > > Many thanks to Chris for providing this link showing a bit more of the story > > and some behind the scenes stuff. > > aka: > > Christopher Cunningham > > Sea Kayaker magazine > > > _http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015_ > > (http://westseattleblog..com/blog/?p=15015) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Someone told me that the first video they saw on King TV was of the kayak being taken to the ferry. Then when they went to the link they saw the same video we all have watched. It would appear the kayak was rescued. The kayak looked to be a Dagger Meridian S. I got the impression the paddler did not know how to do a paddle float rescue even though he had all the equipment he should need. If he did perhaps he was never instructed to fasten it to the kayak and found the waves made it too difficult to keep in place while he tried to reenter the cockpit. It is possible he had failed and given up saw the ferry and just waited for rescue. He still looked plenty strong when helping get himself aboard the Zodiac, so I don't think he was in the roughly 45 degree water for very long. He did have most of his body out of the water while waiting which was good. It also looked like he had something white he was holding under his left arm (and not the paddle blade). I haven't been able to see what that might have been though. He must have had one very painfully cold foot. I wonder how he lost one bootie? I suspect his paddle that got caught between the Zodiac and motor was broken as they sped away by the outboard motor even though the prop had a cage around it. I wish the cameraperson hadn't zoomed back so quickly as I was hoping to see what happened to that paddle. One news article said his name was Scott Redfern, who lives nearby in West Seattle and paddles most days. There was a small craft warning on Monday. He said the wind came up quickly and he swamped while trying to turn around. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
[Please remove all old content that is not pertinent to your reply including old headers and footers. It's list policy.... this post was modified to meet policy] Amazing they didn't tow back his boat. It seems they just went the 1000yds or so so to a beach and could very easily have towed the kayak that far. This person was all setup for a paddle float self rescue and in only moderate conditions so likely his lack of good or recent practice is all that stopped him. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Pam sent this to me. > > http://www.king5.com/video/featured-index.html?nvid=342526 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On 3/18/09, John Clinton <jcbikeski_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > Amazing they didn't tow back his boat. It seems they just went the > 1000yds or so so to a beach and could very easily have towed the kayak that > far. This person was all setup for a paddle float self rescue and in only > moderate conditions so likely his lack of good or recent practice is all > that stopped him. I took a closer look at that video. It's hard to tell if the wind would blow his kayak ashore or not. However he was actively kicking his way downwind when the sport boat showed up and he didn't look all that eager to go with them. Perhaps he lost his right bootie in his paddlefloat rescue attempts. He didn't appear to be at all incapacitated and was able to walk ashore no problem. Maybe the sport boat crew told him they'd go back and get his paddle and kayak. The skeg was still partially deployed which may have interfered somewhat with his attempts to swim the kayak to the beach. From the opening shot of the ferry it doesn't look like it was that far. Maybe a rescue that didn't need to happen. There's probably a good lesson in here, somewhere. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/19/2009 7:01:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jcbikeski_at_gmail.com writes: Amazing they didn't tow back his boat. It seems they just went the 1000yds or so so to a beach and could very easily have towed the kayak that far. This person was all setup for a paddle float self rescue and in only moderate conditions so likely his lack of good or recent practice is all that stopped him. I was previously on a ferry that stopped to rescue a person on a capsized catamaran. The boat was on it's side in the water, and the person standing braced between the pontoons. Once they got him in the boat, they took off away from the boat and ferry. There was another person floating about 200 yards away. This was also at dusk and was without question, a life saving event. Both had wetsuits on. My take is that the ferry system does the rescues as an emergency event. The boats aren't their concern, though I believe they inform the Coast Guard where they are. Their crews are not likely to know how to deal with all small craft. Would you want them to delay getting a victim to land just because the person doesn't appear to be in immediate danger of death? I have a suspicion that this person was having a motion sickness problem. That much swell, when he was unable to watch the horizon, had to have some effect , magnified by the "slinging" effect of the water once you are in, not on, it. He had done a good job of getting most of his body out of the water to stave off hypothermia. He kept the paddle. He may have been hoping to wash back into shore, though he was a long way out. He may have been hoping the swells decreased, certainly something that could happen with a change in physical position and change in fetch. I have not gotten a good idea of what time this was, or I would have given you the tide and current information. Perhaps someone in our area has a better idea than I do. Anyway, if I'm out there, I hope they get me and don't worry about the boat. I can get a new boat but there is a very limited supply of me! Pam in Washington State **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub leclick.net%2Fclk%3B212974460%3B34272906%3Bh) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Correction: The Zodiac went back out and brought the kayak back to shore where the paddler was brought in earlier (rather than to the ferry). I don't know if they got the paddle or not. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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