Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise list censorship

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com> wrote:

>
> Man, I did not realize I was getting any special treatment.  There have
> been a few contributions of mine which got sidetracked for a while the last
> couple months, but I just blew it off as some sort of artifact.


I have to second Dave's statement. In fact, due to the vagaries of gmail -
where I keep my paddling email accounts - I cannot tell whether a post from
me has reached the list until someone replies to it. I've a few times that
nothing showed up but just assumed no one replied.

It will be a cold day in hell when I harass anybody who _volunteers_ their
> time to manage one of these lists


Ya... it's a job I no longer want. In fact my company recently sold off its
ISP due to my intense disinterest in administrating users.


> I'm sure Craig will agree with that statement, as he got crosswise with one
> of the owners of that site and no longer contributes.  It is that intense
> moderation which assists in the high level of participatin.


I stopped contributing to WestCoastPaddler because I realized that there was
an intense nationalistic trend and busting through that proved impossible.
No matter how much I tried to make a point (or Dave too, for that matter)
the thread kept descending into nationalistic politics with Americans on the
bad-guy side. When the moderators refused to even recognize that there was a
problem I decided that my contributions to that forum were a waste of my
time and moved along; nothing to see here, folks. No use hanging out with
people who have decided they don't like me just because of where I live.


> The long and short of it is that whatever management "style" a moderator
> takes, he/she will piss off some and not others ... and I am sure Kirk will
> respond to this debate in time.  I bet if we all just kinda chill, he will
> take care of it.  This is my last contribution to any discussion of list
> policy, as Kirk does not need this kind of trouble.  I suspect direct
> communication with Kirk is the way to go.
>
> I agree with this. Moreover I know that I can get burned out. Kirk has been
doing this for a long time now and perhaps his interest has flagged.  I
contribute to Paddlewise because I believe that it's a valuable resource and
want to keep it active. I realize that it has a west-coast of North America
flavor now but that's only because the most active participants just happen
to live on the west coast; more or less.

Please continue to post.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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