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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise List
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:07:15 -0700
I've heard backchannel from several people who also have had many of their
emails not show up on the list. It makes me wonder if there is not something
seriously up with the list itself. I had a few emails come back with
MajorDomo editing and errors on them which should not have happened (the
list processor was trying to process every line of my email as a command). I
can think of a couple of ways to check on this but the easiest would be to
have a second email address that people could send a cc: of their posting
to; then compare the list to the email in that address.

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise List
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:50:11 -0400
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:07:15PM -0700, Craig Jungers wrote:
> I've heard backchannel from several people who also have had many of their
> emails not show up on the list. It makes me wonder if there is not something
> seriously up with the list itself. I had a few emails come back with
> MajorDomo editing and errors on them which should not have happened (the
> list processor was trying to process every line of my email as a command).

There is a configurable option in majordomo which is designed to intercept
traffic sent to the list which should instead be going to majordomo itself.
This is a defensive measure designed to prevent routine s*bscr*be and
uns*bscr*be requests and the like from going out to the entire mailing list.
If you have used one of the keywords or strings that this particular
installation of majordomo is matching on, then, yes, your message will
be shunted aside, processed as if were commands, and of course if it
wasn't, then all those non-commands will generate a LOT of error messages.

But without looking at the config file for this list, there's no way
for me to know if everything I just said covers what you're seeing
or whether it's something else entirely.

BTW: I did notice that a long-ish message which took me considerable time
to write the other day has apparently vanished with no trace.

---Rsk
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise List
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:55:06 -0700
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_rockandwater.net> wrote:

>
> There is a configurable option in majordomo which is designed to intercept
> traffic sent to the list which should instead be going to majordomo itself.
>

Well as it turned out I managed to address the email to paddlewise-request
which was the cause of the screwup. Not, as it turns out, the fault of the
listserv at all.

>
>
> BTW: I did notice that a long-ish message which took me considerable time
> to write the other day has apparently vanished with no trace.
>
> Something is clearly up with the MajorDomo.  Bob says he's going to switch
it to mailman.


Craig
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From: Bob Myers <qajaqbob_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise List
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:13:26 -0700
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I've heard backchannel from several people who also have had many of their
> emails not show up on the list. It makes me wonder if there is not
> something seriously up with the list itself. I had a few emails come back with
> MajorDomo editing and errors on them which should not have happened (the
> list processor was trying to process every line of my email as a command).

If they're coming back with Majordomo processing errors, you almost
certainly sent the message to something other than paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net.
paddlewise-request_at_paddlewise.net will do that, for example.

Send me your bounces and I'll check into it.

I really need to upgrade the list server software to something more
modern....


[moderator note - Craig responded to list with top posted "I sent copies separately"  the moderator was too busy to edit the "I did that" posting]
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