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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle length
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:49:23 -0700
   I've never seen a caribou in person, although they are on PBS
fairly regularly. Did have a bull elk in my yard. He was doing about
one knot when he left. I didn't chase him because I don't like getting
hurt. And just for the record, we had a cow kick one of our kayaks once.
Oh, and D. had a black lab drop a big rock on his boat, but that's a
different thread I suppose. That's all I have to say about that.

Brad



Quoting nole4ever_at_aol.com:

> anybody know the difference between
> carbou and raindeer????.... aren't they really the same animal???
> oh.... i know now....
> raindeer can fly....
> steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
> To: MATT MARINER BROZE <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com>
> Cc: pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz; crjungers_at_gmail.com; Paddlewise   
> <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 18, 2009 10:27 am
> Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddle length
>
>
> Caribou were the original water skiers. This is a little known?
> fact. They have indeed been clocked at an amazing 9 knots.?
> ?
> Brad?
> ?
> Quoting MATT MARINER BROZE <marinerkayaks_at_msn.com>:?
> ?
>> Paul wrote:?
>> ?
>> ?
>>>>>> ...My understanding (from the museums and the books) is that   
>>>>>> the >>>>> Inuit who?
>> were most concerned with speed were those from the big mid-arctic river?
>> deltas. They chased caribou swimming at 6 knots and had to catch up as?
>> well....<<<<<?
>> ?
>> ?
>> I'd be very skeptical of a land animal making that kind of speed in  
>>  > the water.?
>> It is barely possible with human paddle power and a sleek hull for   
>> > support out?
>> of the water and with a paddle that moves forward in the air (rather than?
>> hooves moving forward for the next power stroke underwater). I haven't?
>> researched this (except for polar bears) but I just can't see it. Maybe 3?
>> knots I could believe.?
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From: Steve Cramer <cramersec_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle length
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:06:03 -0400
Abraham Lincoln (6' 4.5") was once asked how long a man's legs should 
be. "Long enough to reach the ground," said Abe. That's pretty much my 
philosophy on paddle sizing.

Steve
-- 
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Athens, GA
http://www.savvypaddler.com
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From: Holmes <holmes375_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle length
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
> .... Oh, and D. had a black lab drop a big rock on his boat, but
> that's a
> different thread I suppose. That's all I have to say about
> that.
> 
> Brad

LOL!  That's a story I would enjoy hearing :)

Holmes
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle length
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:25:56 -0700
   Well, since it didn't happen to me, I don't mind telling it.
A bunch of us were hauled up on a rocky beach with our kayaks to
enjoy a shore break. There must have been 8-10 boats altogether.
Suddenly we noticed a pretty black lab walking along the shore, coming
towards us. We could see he had a large object in his mouth, but couldn't
make out what it was. The lab made a bee-line for D.'s kayak. When the
dog's mouth was directly over the front deck of D.'s boat, the lab
dropped the object and made a direct hit. When we heard the impact,
we figured out what the object was...it was about as large a rock as
a retriever could possibly fit into it's mouth. The mix of emotions we
experienced would be hard to put into words. Needless to say, D. was
not at all pleased with that dog. Fortunately, the rock did not penetrate
the deck. The dog walked off and did not make a second attack. And we never
went back to that beach.

   Come to think of it, that's the same bunch of kayakers who decided to
tie off their boats to a very large poisson oak tree. But that's another
thread I guess.

Brad



Quoting Holmes <holmes375_at_yahoo.com>:

>> .... Oh, and D. had a black lab drop a big rock on his boat, but
>> that's a
>> different thread I suppose. That's all I have to say about
>> that.
>>
>> Brad
>
> LOL!  That's a story I would enjoy hearing :)
>
> Holmes
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