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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] efficient stroke-lifting water
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:33:33 4
When the blade goes past the hips, it is often said that lifting water 
at the end of the stroke is the tragic result. I think this is not the 
case with a proper stroke. Certainly if the boat were not moving, 
the paddler would likely be lifting water as during the acceleration 
phase of starting to propel the boat. Once the boat is moving at 
speed, the blade slices out and is pulled out lengthwise by the 
forward speed of the boat. I don't fling a blade load of water into the 
air with each stroke as if in a state of chronic acceleration.

Chuck Sutherland
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] efficient stroke-lifting water
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:41:19 -0700
My wing paddle, which was made by Werner for the US Canoe and Kayak Team and
is not at all standard (and is not at all light or flexible) has a tendency
to fling water even though my stroke is not extended that far back. I'm not
sure if it's the paddle or the paddler, frankly, and it seems plenty fast
regardless. It would be nice to see the paddle in competent hands. The plus
is that almost no water runs down the shaft.

I'd love to get a newer wing but I'm trying to juggle two projects (getting
the shop rebuilt and finalizing the muthah-ship) and besides, that Werner is
so strong that leaving it at home would mean I wouldn't have anything to dig
holes or chop firewood  :P

Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM, skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net> wrote:

> When the blade goes past the hips, it is often said that lifting water
> at the end of the stroke is the tragic result. I think this is not the
> case with a proper stroke. Certainly if the boat were not moving,
> the paddler would likely be lifting water as during the acceleration
> phase of starting to propel the boat. Once the boat is moving at
> speed, the blade slices out and is pulled out lengthwise by the
> forward speed of the boat. I don't fling a blade load of water into the
> air with each stroke as if in a state of chronic acceleration.
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From: Bradford R. Crain <crainb_at_pdx.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] efficient stroke-lifting water
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:45:48 -0700
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM, skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net> wrote:
>
>> When the blade goes past the hips, it is often said that lifting water
>> at the end of the stroke is the tragic result. I think this is not the
>> case with a proper stroke. Certainly if the boat were not moving,
>> the paddler would likely be lifting water as during the acceleration
>> phase of starting to propel the boat. Once the boat is moving at
>> speed, the blade slices out and is pulled out lengthwise by the
>> forward speed of the boat. I don't fling a blade load of water into the
>> air with each stroke as if in a state of chronic acceleration.

      This thread on paddle efficiency has been enlightening. Some topics on
      stroke efficiency that might need further discussion are:
      pulling out too soon,
      pulling out too late,
      and my favorite (due to Billy Crystal): The Dismount.

      Brad Crain 
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