I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment that anyone can recommend? Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug, I've seen a couple plastic white water boats filled with this stuff below, but it makes them rather heavy. http://www.uscomposites.com/foam.html Duane Southern California --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > I have an older Necky Gliss that I > want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water > volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high > performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment > that anyone can recommend? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Roger that Duane, Have foam pillars and chucks everywhere - just want to finish off the voids remaing and bond the bits together. DL > Doug, > > I've seen a couple plastic white water boats filled with this stuff below, > but it makes them rather heavy. > > http://www.uscomposites.com/foam.html > > Duane > Southern California > > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: >> I have an older Necky Gliss that I >> want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water >> volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high >> performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment >> that anyone can recommend? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Take care when using expanding foam, for it expands. If you use too much of it in the wrong place, it will deform or split your hull. I learned that the hard way -- R5 RIP. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This stuff should be heading your way soon, perhaps it will suffice. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/71842.html It's always good to recycle. Mark -----Original Message----- Subject: [Paddlewise] Floatation Foam I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment that anyone can recommend? Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks Mark. Not sure I want that stuff in my kayak. It looks like whale diarrhea! DL > This stuff should be heading your way soon, perhaps it will suffice. > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/71842.html > > It's always good to recycle. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [Paddlewise] Floatation Foam > > I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to > completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would > have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment > that > anyone can recommend? > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My kayak was leaking like a swiss cheese, so I filled it with expanding foam. Works great, except now I can't get out of the boat. Brad Mark Sanders wrote: > This stuff should be heading your way soon, perhaps it will suffice. > > http://www.mcclatchydc.com/environment/story/71842.html > > It's always good to recycle. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [Paddlewise] Floatation Foam > > I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to > completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would > have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment > that > anyone can recommend? > > Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When I bought my VCP Pintail, I built a solid closed cell back rest to fill the volume behind the seat and filled under and alongside the seat with "window" expanding foam from the local Home Depot. (The foam designated for windows and doors expands less than the regular material and has less potential for doing damage.) Twenty or so years later, the stuff is still pretty ugly, but it hasn't decomposed and still keeps the water out. Doesn't smell worse than the rest of the boat, either. There's probably some limited water retention, but it isn't obvious. Can't tell if it has changed the weight of the boat because it's way too heavy, anyway. Works at its intended function, and has not caused any difficulty in the long haul. (Definitely wouldn't use it on any of my wooden boats, however -- a really bad idea, regardless of epoxy bonding, glass fabric, etc. Can almost guarantee damage in that case.) Joq -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment that anyone can recommend? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Not sure if they'd be small enough to effectively get into all the nooks and crannies you've got, but I recall reading somewhere that Charles L. filled the empty spaces on "The Spirit Of Saint Louis" with ping-pong balls for floatation in case he had to ditch during his trans-atlantic flight. Cheers, Philip -----Original Message----- From: Martin, Jack <martin.jack_at_solute.us> To: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>; paddlewise <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 5:27 am Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Floatation Foam When I bought my VCP Pintail, I built a solid closed cell back rest to fill the volume behind the seat and filled under and alongside the seat with "window" expanding foam from the local Home Depot. (The foam designated for windows and doors expands less than the regular material and has less potential for doing damage.) Twenty or so years later, the stuff is still pretty ugly, but it hasn't decomposed and still keeps the water out. Doesn't smell worse than the rest of the boat, either. There's probably some limited water retention, but it isn't obvious. Can't tell if it has changed the weight of the boat because it's way too heavy, anyway. Works at its intended function, and has not caused any difficulty in the long haul. (Definitely wouldn't use it on any of my wooden boats, however -- a really bad idea, regardless of epoxy bonding, glass fabric, etc. Can almost guarantee damage in that case.) Joq -----Original Message----- From: Doug Lloyd I have an older Necky Gliss that I want to fill some voids with to completely eradicate water volume. Is there an expanding foam that would have a high performance rating for continuous duty in a wet environment that anyone can recommend? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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