I've stayed out of this, mainly because guys like Duane and Doug have tons more experience surfing waves than I do. I gotta say, though, that Doug's first sentence makes no sense to me. His description of what he does when surfing a standing wave (second sentence) makes perfect sense, however. [What Doug said: > In tide races I lean downstream or lean down-direction of the water > movement to negate water piling on the opposite side inducing a flip, so > tuning port for example is fine if the water is moving against the > starboard hull but then I'd be pushed in that direction regardless. For > standing waves in a race I usually lean to the inside of the turn for > turning. I'll have to experiment a bit. Some times it depends on hull design. Getting back to Duane's question: When surfing a wave breaking in a surf zone, orbital motion takes a back seat to gravity and waveslope, I think, complicated by the fact the water mass of a breaking wave is moving toward the beach (I think). Surfing a standing wave is a somewhat different kettle of fish, from the point of view of motion of the water mass (I think). My bet is that Duane is both skidding _and_ carving, depending on the steepness of the waveface, and that when "down wave edging" he is tipped so far down-wave he thinks he is using the down-wave edge to carve, but he is really skidding. (I think) If it seems I am hedging here, that's good. I am so far past my board-surfing days and such an infrequent kayak-surfer, I do not have much competence to stand on. But, maybe some of this will give Duane grist for sorting out the dynamics. Doug, he's got more grist than any seven people I know, so he does not need any more from me. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Aug 27 2009 - 07:35:30 PDT
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