PeterO wrote: > That body mass index is surely worth a lot. Differences in body surface area > to mass ratio don't seem large enough to account for solidly built people > lasting a day or so in cold water and thinner folks only lasting an hour or > two. Peter, be careful here to avoid lumping people having a mass (of whatever source) in with people having a high fat/muscle content. Muscle is not a good insulator, but it does contribute to mass. > And I wouldn't think body fat is that great an insulator even though > its sealed with an effective waterproof coating (skin). Really good > insulators generally rely on trapping pockets of air small enough to avoid > convective heat transport. I believe you are thinking of "really good insulators" here as ones with high insulating value compared to their _mass._ In the sea, high mass is not a disadvantage, as long as some positive buoyancy is maintained. I suspect an inch of fat is as good an insulator as an inch of goose down, or nearly so. It is our go-light, go-fast mentality which prejudices us towards lightweight insulators. And, for structures, lightweight insulators are cheaper (air costs nothing) and work well between structural elements (aka walls). Sea creatures don't need the same structural elements bipedal land mammals do ... we have quite a bit of "wasted" bone structure for paddling (e.g., legs are pretty useless to paddlers). > So while thermal insulation is important, strikes me energy stored in fat or > food could be particularly useful as well and might account for the striking > difference in cold tolerance. Can fat be metabolised for fuel quickly enough > to stay warm and might there be enough in larger people to last a day for a > day or two? In short, no. Unlike bears and other similar mammals, we are not able to metabolize fat effectively without a carbohydrate input. And, we do not store enough carbohydrate (as glycogen) in our bodies to use much stored fat as an energy source. Peter, I think your skepticism about the insulating value of fat is misplaced. Never mind there is not air trapped in it ... blubber is a very good insulator. Just ask a whale. Remember, they are mammals, also. Fat people (what's this "solidly built" euphemism stuff, anyway?) are better survivors in cold water for their blubber. -- Blubber Dave (channeling for the Steller sea lion he was three incarnations ago) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri May 21 2010 - 03:44:35 PDT
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