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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:00:15 +1100
G'day Doug' and all,


This is to explain how I was restrained from ripping my shorts off and
running naked down a crowded beach. 

I'd been having trouble with my roll. It worked but was lethargic, possibly
due to a lazy knee lift caused by too much cycling without toe clips.
Controversial I expect but hey it's a theory. 

Anyway Christmas in Oz is an ideal time to get out, get wet and regain
skills. I duly started to practise my roll, aspiring to Doug's council of
perfection and aiming to be as comfortable under water as above; in between
working at balanced braces and sculling in Dee's marvellous new Tahe
Greenlander. Anyway towards the end of the week we rounded Cape
Perpendicular and came back into Jervis Bay with a light on shore wind and
strong on shore swell. These conditions had brought in small clusters of the
most beautiful pelagic sea creatures you can imagine. We call them blue
bottles as they are coloured a deep translucent indigo with delicate
tendrils that can stretch metres. Spoiling this wonder was a massive
floating piece of polystyrene foam that we trapped and placed under the
bungees near my bow so I could take it to a well populated beach that had a
garbage bin.  

Having disposed of the offensive foam and preparing to leave the beach, my
right side nether regions started to feel strangely warm. As the pain went
from strange to uncomfortable I removed the spray skirt and there it was, a
distraught bluebottle sharing my seat! The pain intensified and spread,
almost like sitting on a stove top. Resisting the urge to rip off my pants
and run across the beach and into the sea, I paddled away fast to remove the
blue bottle and as many tendrils as possible at a discrete distance. Then
paddled away from the dishevelled monster so I could roll over, exit the
boat and cool my fiery backside. It was not to be. As I tilted the boat a
sensation like a branding iron along my thigh and buttocks caused me to
execute a fantastic knee lift and roll up, only to experience the pain
repeatedly making me tip over and roll again six times in rapid succession.
I have witnesses! 

Anyway Doug, can't say I managed to achieve your ideal, it was not
comfortable! But during the following days my roll improved no end, moving
from a dull Pawlatta to an elegant sweep. A week later the pain has almost
vanished and I'm left a wiser man, with strange memories, and a much better
roll. 


All the best Doug' and hope you recover well, PeterO

Paper in preparation 'neuromuscular enhancement of kayaker performance using
toxin derivatives harvested from Physalia physalis (Portuguese Man o'War
jelly fish)' :~)
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From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:03:37 +1300
> ripping my shorts off 

Peter

Well done with the new & advanced roll-enhancement technique !

But, Man o'Man, I'd get out there and pick up a lottery ticket.

Your description of the 'zone of discomfort' sounds perilously near to some
very much more sensitive nerve ends. Makes me sweat slightly just to think
about it... 

You also might want to suggest - on the Qajak board, of course - proposing
the definition of a new roll - the Jelly Roll.

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:21:58 -0800
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz> wrote:

>
> You also might want to suggest - on the Qajak board, of course - proposing
> the definition of a new roll - the Jelly Roll.
>
> This one earned me a weird look when I laughed out loud. The best name for
a "roll" yet.


Craig
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From: Mark Sanders <marksanders_at_sandmarks.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:56:21 -0800
I wonder if PMoW differ around the world??
I've always had a paranoia about jellyfish. Swimming as a kid, I 
imagined coming up through a wave and finding one splayed across my 
face!!! I've continued that paranoia into kayak rolling! A few years 
ago, we had an infestation where giant red and black jellies were so 
prevalent in Newport, you couldn't plant a blade without hitting one! I 
can assure you, it dampened my desire to paddle!!
That being said, I had an encounter with a PMoW on a beach in Hawaii 
several years ago. I guess they tend to wash up on shore there with the 
full moon or something! Someone else had left the beach in a hurry with 
a sting a while before I met mine, so I figured he'd reduced my odds! 
Fat chance! It got my arm and as I swung to throw it off, it got me in 
the back as well! Not a pleasant feeling! I'd heard all the folk 
remedies were bogus, so I didn't bother peeing on myself!! It curtailed 
my swim session and I drove home with nasty red welts on my arm at least.
While it was painful, the pain didn't last as long as I thought it 
would, so I wondered if I had met a sissy!?! The long tentacles make 
sure they contact with quite a bit of skin, so they seem a nasty piece 
of work. I'd just as soon NOT be able to compare them with one of our 
local variety, having been able to avoid them through my whole life here 
growing up by the beach.
I definitely don't want to find one sharing a ride with me after a roll!!!

Mark Sanders
www.sandmarks.net

On 1/15/2011 4:00 PM, PeterO wrote:
> Having disposed of the offensive foam and preparing to leave the beach, my
> right side nether regions started to feel strangely warm. As the pain went
> from strange to uncomfortable I removed the spray skirt and there it was, a
> distraught bluebottle sharing my seat! The pain intensified and spread,
> almost like sitting on a stove top. Resisting the urge to rip off my pants
> and run across the beach and into the sea, I paddled away fast to remove the
> blue bottle and as many tendrils as possible at a discrete distance. Then
> paddled away from the dishevelled monster so I could roll over, exit the
> boat and cool my fiery backside. It was not to be. As I tilted the boat a
> sensation like a branding iron along my thigh and buttocks caused me to
> execute a fantastic knee lift and roll up, only to experience the pain
> repeatedly making me tip over and roll again six times in rapid succession.
> I have witnesses!
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:16:39 +1100
G'day Paul, 

"Jelly roll" Perfect name! Way better than 'Botox roll' which was my first
thought.

Will have to think up a suitable nom de plume if I'm going to approach the
Qajak forum. Locals tell me that teaching the Jelly Roll breaches the UN
Universal Declaration of Human Rights!

All the best, PeterO
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From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:27:45 +1300
Peter

It's rather a pity that you didn't have the experience up off Brisbane, in
the blue-bottle infested waters of Moreton Bay rather than at home in your
own Jarvis Bay...

A 'Jelly Roll Moreton' would've been extra good for Jazz fans !

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:11:15 +1100
G'day,

Oh man that did make me laugh out loud and I needed it as its midnight and
have just met a tender deadline and am about to cycle home past the
graveyard!

Did you ever see the film '1900' about a fellow who is born, lives and dies
on a cruise ship without ever leaving it. There's a red hot piano dual
between Jelly Roll Morton and the man 1900.

All the best, PeterO
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From: Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 14:27:50 +1300
Peter said:
"... red hot piano duel between Jelly Roll Morton and..."

This is getting a little distance from kayaking... but the only film I saw,
with mention of Jelly Roll, was Ken Burns' awesome multi-part video series
on Jazz (borrowed on DVD from a local video renter).

I hope many of you have seen it (if you have any liking for the stuff), as I
found it equally fascinating for the vintage footage of the people and
places - as for the music. I know too little about the music to comment on
Burns' judgement or accuracy - but I loved it.

Gave me a new insight as to JRM's nickname, as well ;-) 

Best Regards
Paul Hayward, Auckland, New Zealand
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Comfort and the roll
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:38:38 -0800
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Paul Hayward <pdh_at_mmcl.co.nz> wrote:

>
>
> A 'Jelly Roll Moreton' would've been extra good for Jazz fans !
>
> Groan!  :D


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net
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