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From: skimmer <skimmer_at_enter.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] advice to public jan 21, 2011
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:47:14 -0500
I am saying that this is the level of advice CURRENTLY given to the general
boating public. I believe we can do better!

 

http://www.sj-r.com/features/x1254723993/Take-steps-to-protect-yourself-from
-the-cold

 

Chuck Sutherland
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From: Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] advice to public jan 21, 2011
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:16:42 -0800
Minimal info at best, though at least the article makes a connection between
wearing a PFD and cold-shock breathing difficulties. As well, a wet suit IS
mentioned. And I liked the part about practicing canoe recovery drills in a
warm pool in Winter. 

Chuck Sutherland - a voice in the wilderness...the cold wilderness!

DL


Chuck said:

I am saying that this is the level of advice CURRENTLY given to the general
boating public. I believe we can do better!

 

http://www.sj-r.com/features/x1254723993/Take-steps-to-protect-yourself-from
-the-cold

 

Chuck Sutherland
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From: Craig Jungers <crjungers_at_gmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] advice to public jan 21, 2011
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:17:25 -0800
I think that trying to convince a canoist to wear a wet suit might be a tad
difficult. I've started to recommend the NRS "HydroSkin" products to people
who don't seem likely to wear thermal protection apparel. I'm not sure if
anyone else is making it but I bought one of their long-sleeve HydroSkin
shirts at their "bargain loft" in Moscow last year and I find it comfortable
for Fall/Spring days (or a Summer day on Puget Sound). This is the NRS band
name for a very thin neoprene-like material with a fleece lining. The fleece
takes away most of the "clammy" feel of neoprene and the material is so thin
that it's not objectionable (at least not to me). They make "pants" in this
material too as well as short-sleeve and vest tops. The prices are low
enough to attract canoists and kayak-fishermen.

These won't offer anything close to what a farmer-john and a dry-top (or a
drysuit) will in terms of thermal protection in cold water but they beat the
heck out of cotton shirts and jeans. I'd love to see Chuck (or anyone) do a
test on outerwear  like this in order to get a good feel for what protection
they do offer.


Craig Jungers
Moses Lake, WA
www.nwkayaking.net

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote:

> Minimal info at best, though at least the article makes a connection
> between
> wearing a PFD and cold-shock breathing difficulties. As well, a wet suit IS
> mentioned. And I liked the part about practicing canoe recovery drills in a
> warm pool in Winter.
>
> Chuck Sutherland - a voice in the wilderness...the cold wilderness!
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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_energysustained.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Sea fog
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:51:00 +1100
G'day,

Some unusually foggy conditions here a few days ago, with a 20 knot north
east sea breeze forecast for about midday turning to a strong southerly in
the evening as a front moved in. 

We set off along the coast bearing northeast along the cliffs and hoping to
sail back with the wind. There was a dense sea fog, varying between about 50
metres to 100 metres visibility and mainly extending along the coast. It
didn't clear until about 2pm. Unusual for Sydney. The fog was formed by the
gentle, warm north east wind blowing over the cooler waters and the sea
breeze didn't rise much above 5 knots. 

We guessed that the lack of wind was caused by the fog reflecting sunlight
so the land didn't get a chance to warm. Does that sound plausible? I was a
bit surprised because I don't think the fog extended much more than ten or
so kilometres and wouldn't have expected such a small area to have so great
an effect.

We missed the chance for a good sail but well worth the trip for the
exercise of tracking along the coast and across headlands without much in
the way of visual cues. Quite tricky crossing from North Head to South Head
at flood tide as we didn't want to be pushed too far into the harbour with
all its holiday traffic.

All the best. PeterO
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