Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. Please refrain from contacting him (I assume), but please do keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I was pretty emotional Sunday morning thinking about Dave. He's certainly someone who has added a richness to our lives, given of his wisdom and pragmatic advice without hesitation, and made many new friends along the way. He's a pretty private guy when it comes to his health issue but something should be said here. See this link: http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1 <http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4808> &t=4808 Doug *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca> wrote: > Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. > I am so saddened to hear this. Dave Kruger's stories about paddling made you feel like you were with him. When the original web site that carried them went away I searched him out and found him here on Paddlewise. Get better, Dave. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've only paddled with Dave once, but once was enough to see that he is a skilled outdoors enthusiast, and generally very intelligent human being. You can't spend time with Dave without some of his knowledge rubbing off on the entire group. He teaches without teaching...remarkable. Hang in there Dave. -- Bradford R. Crain Quoting Doug Lloyd <douglloyd_at_shaw.ca>: > Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. Please refrain from contacting him (I > assume), but please do keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I was pretty > emotional Sunday morning thinking about Dave. He's certainly someone who has > added a richness to our lives, given of his wisdom and pragmatic advice > without hesitation, and made many new friends along the way. He's a pretty > private guy when it comes to his health issue but something should be said > here. > > > > See this link: > > > > http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1 > <http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4808> &t=4808 > > > > Doug *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
G'day, Thanks to everybody for the responses to my question on which foot to engage with the foot rest when paddling backwards. My response is a bit late but that's because I had to find time on the water to try everything out. Steve - described a thought experiment in a swivel chair which helped. Bob Carter - locks both feet to keep the rudder straight when reverse paddling a ruddered boat and I found that was essential and harder than it sounds. Darryl - points out that it is the buttock that should be engaged when paddling backwards but doesn't think the feet really matter - makes sense Newtons 3rd law! Brad - recommended a rear view mirror - You're right Brad absolutely essential for me in a ruddered boat! Paul - in a non-ruddered boat recommended using the foot on the same side as the paddle in the water for going straight but for a ruddered boat thought it didn't matter Kirk - If I interpret him correctly suggested first bending the leg on the same side as the active blade, when positioning the blade just before the stroke. This allowed the torso to rotate. Then straighten the leg on the same side as the active blade during the stroke (Kirk please correct me if I'm misinterpreting) Erik - described Darryl's approach but in more detail - again buttock more important than foot Pam - off line gave a very detailed description of two approaches to paddling backwards i) gently ii) high speed. Both were quite detailed and made sense and were consistent with most of the advice above. I think this is a set of advice that's self-consistent with everyone offering slightly different perspectives. I put it into practice over two sessions in a ruddered and unruddered kayak with a couple of people assessing my performance. Despite the fact that I live in the southern hemisphere I found the advice to be effective, didn't have to reverse anything Steve:~) Here are my rather subjective observations: BACK PADDLING A RUDDERED BOAT Much harder to paddle backwards in a straight line in a ruddered boat and as Bob said absolutely have to focus on equal foot pressure to keep the rudder straight. The torso position and symmetry of strokes on either side seemed to be crucial and as I turned on each stroke to look where I was going I longed for Brad's rear view mirror. Someone in our club actually devised a rear view cycling mirror for kayaking years ago but it didn't take off - not even when our resident physio pointed out that paddling backwards was very helpful in keeping musculature balanced! I wound up looking at my wake as a guide. BACK PADDLING IN A NON RUDDERED BOAT When paddling backwards forcefully it was a bit easier to paddle backwards in a straight line, with the foot-leg-buttock connection straightened on the same side as the blade in the water. I suspect this had not much to do with foot or buttock pressure and everything to do with ease of torso rotation as Erik mentioned. However, the idea that when going backwards it's the buttock that matters in force transference from the blade through the torso to the buttock makes perfect sense. Torso position and symmetry of paddle strokes seemed to be more important than foot pressure. When paddling backwards gently with low angle strokes it was easier to control the direction and foot-leg-buttock straightening were even less effective than when paddling fast. Again symmetry of stroke and body angle were more important. In general it was much easier for me to reverse the unruddered boat but I'm not very familiar with rudders. Thanks again everyone. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Doug wrote: >Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. Please refrain from contacting him (I >assume), but please do keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I was pretty >emotional Sunday morning thinking about Dave. He's certainly someone who has >added a richness to our lives, given of his wisdom and pragmatic advice >without hesitation, and made many new friends along the way. He's a pretty >private guy when it comes to his health issue but something should be said >here. >And Doug gave the link http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4808 Thank you Doug' Thanks for those details Doug and for your summary. I had no idea Dave was so ill and can only wish him well through Paddlewise. As you say, in the article Dan Millsip makes the point that Dave "doesn't wish to be called by anyone as this last part of his life is getting quite difficult and personal". He also says that "if anyone has a message that they'd like passed on, get in touch (with Dan Millsip) and if possible, I will pass it on". I've valued Dave's character, opinion, contributions and stories very greatly for many years, both on Paddlewise and off line and am saddened that a man full of such life has to go through this. In deference to Dave's wishes I'm wondering if someone from Paddlewise could contact Dan Millsip and ask him to pass on the Paddlewise group's appreciation of his friendship and our thoughts and best wishes. Would other Paddlewise members feel the same? I don't mean in any sense to put you on the spot but is this a task Doug' that you and/or Jackie would be willing to take on? Again thanks for your summary that expressed very well what I also feel. PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Speaking as a pastor who has been with many people at this stage of their life, I know that friends reaching out (even to those who are private in nature ) can make a difference. Perhaps Doug could put together some of our thoughts and let Dave know that we are thinking about him. Bob > > In deference to Dave's wishes I'm wondering if someone from Paddlewise could > contact Dan Millsip and ask him to pass on the Paddlewise group's > appreciation of his friendship and our thoughts and best wishes. Would other > Paddlewise members feel the same? I don't mean in any sense to put you on > the spot but is this a task Doug' that you and/or Jackie would be willing to > take on? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hear, hear. I've always looked forward to Dave's comments here - uniformly of the highest quality, always accurate and thoughtful - and we all miss him here. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:54, Robert Carter <revkayak_at_aptalaska.net> wrote: > Speaking as a pastor who has been with many people at this stage of their > life, I know that friends reaching out (even to those who are private in > nature ) can make a difference. Perhaps Doug could put together some of our > thoughts and let Dave know that we are thinking about him. > Bob > > > >> In deference to Dave's wishes I'm wondering if someone from Paddlewise >> could >> contact Dan Millsip and ask him to pass on the Paddlewise group's >> appreciation of his friendship and our thoughts and best wishes. Would >> other >> Paddlewise members feel the same? I don't mean in any sense to put you on >> the spot but is this a task Doug' that you and/or Jackie would be willing >> to >> take on? >> > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed > here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oh, such sad news indeed. My heart aches for Dave and Becky. I've "known" Dave Kruger for many years through the kayaking lists. He is an inspiration and wonderfully funny as well as generous in providing valuable advice from his endless treasure trove of knowledge gained through experience. Always positive and a great teacher. Dave's absence here on Paddlewise has not gone unnoticed. We love you Dave. xx Jackie Fenton Myers Doug Lloyd wrote: >Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. Please refrain from contacting him (I >assume), but please do keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I was pretty >emotional Sunday morning thinking about Dave. He's certainly someone who has >added a richness to our lives, given of his wisdom and pragmatic advice >without hesitation, and made many new friends along the way. He's a pretty >private guy when it comes to his health issue but something should be said >here. > > > >See this link: > > > >http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1 ><http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4808> &t=4808 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Just post comments here on Paddlewise anyone else who wants to, as Dan at Westcoastpaddler can read your comments and will pass them on. I'm really choked up and don't know what to say in a personal vain. I knew this day was coming and keep hoping for some miracle cure. Dave's only done as well as he has due to his situational calmness and his cool, abiding intellect that's resounds with a big-heartedness (without the seasoned prejudice that sees some older paddlers unwilling to share from their wealth of experience to anyone needing help). Rare is a sadness like this so universal and widespread. Peace and fair winds to you Dave. Doug Jackie said: Oh, such sad news indeed. My heart aches for Dave and Becky. I've "known" Dave Kruger for many years through the kayaking lists. He is an inspiration and wonderfully funny as well as generous in providing valuable advice from his endless treasure trove of knowledge gained through experience. Always positive and a great teacher. Dave's absence here on Paddlewise has not gone unnoticed. We love you Dave. xx Jackie Fenton Myers Doug Lloyd wrote: >Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. Please refrain from contacting him (I >assume), but please do keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I was pretty >emotional Sunday morning thinking about Dave. He's certainly someone who has >added a richness to our lives, given of his wisdom and pragmatic advice >without hesitation, and made many new friends along the way. He's a pretty >private guy when it comes to his health issue but something should be said >here. > > > >See this link: > > > >http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1 ><http://www.westcoastpaddler.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4808> &t=4808 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Doug, On Wednesday, June 01, 2011, at 5:26:52 PM PST, you wrote: > Dave Kruger isn't doing so well. I'm so sad to learn of this. Like so many, I've enjoyed his contributions both here and on the WCP forums for several years now. His spirit of sharing is vast knowledge, wisdom, and insightful observations has enriched so many of our lives, whether we knew him personally or not. All my love to Dave, Becky, family and truly countless friends. -- Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi, On Tuesday, June 07, 2011, at 12:23:12 PM PST, I Typoed: > His spirit of sharing is vast knowledge, ... Eek! I meant to write "his", not "is". Sorry for replying to myself, but I want to be clear in what I say here. -- Melissa *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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