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Hi Folks, This is a request aimed at the paddlers from the Pacific North West. I'm looking to do a trip up there in late 2013, and I'm after advice/suggestions on activities/locations/timings. Our timing window is late August to November, with a period of about six weeks travelling. My thoughts at this stage are to spend a couple of weeks in the PNW paddling, hopefully attend a symposium, and then be joined by my wife, a non-paddler, for a few weeks in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US. I'll then head home while she does crafty-type stuff in the US south west. Our thinking is that way we can make the most of the seasons, north and south, while not getting bored by the different things we do. To that end I've looked at symposiums around the Seattle area, but they seem few these days. Gary Jacek in Vancouver has offered to show me his part of the world but I'm hoping for other's suggestions on places to go/things to do. I know it's a long way off, but time flys so I need to start planning. Cheers JKA John Kirk-Anderson Banks Peninsula New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
JKA: In my humble opinion, the place to paddle in the PNW is Vancouver Island. The scenery and wildlife are stunning, the camping is amazing, and the fishing used to be superb, and might still be good in spots. Areas north of Vancouver Island along the British Columbia coast might be even more spectacular, but access is a problem, and you probably would need to take a ferry. There are very nice guide books available in spades, and various local paddlers have a wealth of knowledge. I'm sure people in Paddlewise will soon inundate you with tips and information. Amazon.com has had some super guide books and waterproof chart books on sale, and free shipping to Portland, Oregon, if not to NZ. Brad Crain On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:01 AM, John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_snap.net.nz> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This is a request aimed at the paddlers from the Pacific North West. > > I'm looking to do a trip up there in late 2013, and I'm after > advice/suggestions on activities/locations/timings. Our timing window is > late August to November, with a period of about six weeks travelling. > > My thoughts at this stage are to spend a couple of weeks in the PNW > paddling, hopefully attend a symposium, and then be joined by my wife, a > non-paddler, for a few weeks in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US. I'll > then head home while she does crafty-type stuff in the US south west. Our > thinking is that way we can make the most of the seasons, north and > south, while not getting bored by the different things we do. > > To that end I've looked at symposiums around the Seattle area, but they > seem few these days. Gary Jacek in Vancouver has offered to show me his > part > of the world but I'm hoping for other's suggestions on places to go/things > to do. > > I know it's a long way off, but time flys so I need to start planning. > > Cheers > > JKA > > John Kirk-Anderson > > Banks Peninsula > New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John, I'd be inclined to either hit easy access areas for short duration stuff with multiple exposures in the time you have (a sampling if you like) or make the alternative decision to inundate yourself into some remote excursion type trip for a week to 10 days - either choice is good, as both have advantages depending on what you are looking for. You also need to decide if you can afford wind-bound days and exposed coast complexities or more sheltered locations. Anywhere that offers both of those things conveniently juxtaposed tends to be busy July through the end of August (Barkley Sound for example), with the other alternatives that offer both needing some logistical planning (like Nootka Sound). For central access and a exemplary experience, the Canadian of American Gulf Islands have a lot to offer, albeit with moving current considerations needing to be accounted for. I'd offer to meet up with you "paddlewise" for an outing but I'm waiting for an MRI in June to see if my severe stenosis is serious degenerative related or more amenable to rest and better back care. No paddling for now though my wife Yvonne wants to go paddling sometime this summer now that her tumors are 100% shrunk (yeah!). Of course, her back is fractured in places from the tumor damage, so maybe we'll join you, but in a double for us with maybe an outboard motor. Don't mention crafty things, she won't want to go paddling. Doug JKA:, though my wife Yvonne In my humble opinion, the place to paddle in the PNW is Vancouver Island. The scenery and wildlife are stunning, the camping is amazing, and the fishing used to be superb, and might still be good in spots. Areas north of Vancouver Island along the British Columbia coast might be even more spectacular, but access is a problem, and you probably would need to take a ferry. There are very nice guide books available in spades, and various local paddlers have a wealth of knowledge. I'm sure people in Paddlewise will soon inundate you with tips and information. Amazon.com has had some super guide books and waterproof chart books on sale, and free shipping to Portland, Oregon, if not to NZ. Brad Crain On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:01 AM, John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_snap.net.nz> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This is a request aimed at the paddlers from the Pacific North West. > > I'm looking to do a trip up there in late 2013, and I'm after > advice/suggestions on activities/locations/timings. Our timing window > is late August to November, with a period of about six weeks travelling. > > My thoughts at this stage are to spend a couple of weeks in the PNW > paddling, hopefully attend a symposium, and then be joined by my wife, > a non-paddler, for a few weeks in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US. > I'll then head home while she does crafty-type stuff in the US south > west. Our thinking is that way we can make the most of the seasons, > north and south, while not getting bored by the different things we do. > > To that end I've looked at symposiums around the Seattle area, but > they seem few these days. Gary Jacek in Vancouver has offered to show > me his part of the world but I'm hoping for other's suggestions on > places to go/things to do. > > I know it's a long way off, but time flys so I need to start planning. > > Cheers > > JKA > > John Kirk-Anderson > > Banks Peninsula > New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Paddlewisers, Thanks for the suggestions, keep 'em coming. Gary, my apologies for my geographical error on where you live, I KNOW Vancouver Island is in Canada and Vancouver is in the US. No hard feelings I hope :-) Cheers JKA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
JKA mentioned that I (Gary Jacek) am in Vancouver, when in fact I am in Victoria on Vancouver Island. I'll be connecting him with SISKA www.siska.ca members, which should get Southern Vancouver Island covered. If there are any Nanaimo Paddlers here, or Vancouver paddlers, we should get you involved too. JKA is a very experienced paddler and presenter, as I observed at the recent KASK Forum in Wainui. JKA--the other place to ask these questions is Westcoast Paddler www.westcoastpaddler.com. There is a very active discussion board there. May I post this there, on your behalf? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Bradford Crain <drbc_at_pdx.edu> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:36 am Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Early planning for trip to PNW, Take Two To: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_snap.net.nz> Cc: Paddlewise Paddlewise <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>, Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> > JKA: > > In my humble opinion, the place to paddle in the PNW is > Vancouver Island. > The scenery and wildlife > are stunning, the camping is amazing, and the fishing used to be > superb,and might still be good > in spots. Areas north of Vancouver Island along the British > Columbia coast > might be even more > spectacular, but access is a problem, and you probably would > need to take a > ferry. There are very > nice guide books available in spades, and various local paddlers > have a > wealth of knowledge. I'm sure > people in Paddlewise will soon inundate you with tips and information. > Amazon.com has had some > super guide books and waterproof chart books on sale, and free > shipping to > Portland, Oregon, if > not to NZ. > > Brad Crain > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 4:01 AM, John Kirk-Anderson > <jka_at_snap.net.nz> wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > This is a request aimed at the paddlers from the Pacific North West. > > > > I'm looking to do a trip up there in late 2013, and I'm after > > advice/suggestions on activities/locations/timings. Our timing > window is > > late August to November, with a period of about six weeks > travelling.> > > My thoughts at this stage are to spend a couple of weeks in > the PNW > > paddling, hopefully attend a symposium, and then be joined by > my wife, a > > non-paddler, for a few weeks in Canada, Alaska, and the > northern US. I'll > > then head home while she does crafty-type stuff in the US > south west. Our > > thinking is that way we can make the most of the seasons, > north and > > south, while not getting bored by the different things we do. > > > > To that end I've looked at symposiums around the Seattle area, > but they > > seem few these days. Gary Jacek in Vancouver has offered to > show me his > > part > > of the world but I'm hoping for other's suggestions on places > to go/things > > to do. > > > > I know it's a long way off, but time flys so I need to start > planning.> > > Cheers > > > > JKA > > > > John Kirk-Anderson > > > > Banks Peninsula > > New Zealand > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions > expressedhere are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume > the entire > responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright > the author. > Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net > Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net > Website: > http://www.paddlewise.net/*************************************************** ************************ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There is the Lumpy Waters Symposium on the Oregon Coast in Pacific City, OR (about 1.5 - 2 hours from Portland). The Symposium will be in mid-October. http://www.lumpywaters.com/ Also in early October there will be the Hobuck Hoedown, which is a Surf Festival (Sea Kayak, SUP, Surf Kayak) in Neah Bay, WA. http://rubycreekboathouse.com/hobuck-hoedown/ Ed >________________________________ > From: John Kirk-Anderson <jka_at_snap.net.nz> >To: Paddlewise Paddlewise <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>; Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:01 AM >Subject: [Paddlewise] Early planning for trip to PNW, Take Two > >Hi Folks, > >This is a request aimed at the paddlers from the Pacific North West. > >I'm looking to do a trip up there in late 2013, and I'm after >advice/suggestions on activities/locations/timings. Our timing window is >late August to November, with a period of about six weeks travelling. > >My thoughts at this stage are to spend a couple of weeks in the PNW >paddling, hopefully attend a symposium, and then be joined by my wife, a >non-paddler, for a few weeks in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US. I'll >then head home while she does crafty-type stuff in the US south west. Our >thinking is that way we can make the most of the seasons, north and >south, while not getting bored by the different things we do. > >To that end I've looked at symposiums around the Seattle area, but they >seem few these days. Gary Jacek in Vancouver has offered to show me his part >of the world but I'm hoping for other's suggestions on places to go/things >to do. > >I know it's a long way off, but time flys so I need to start planning. > >Cheers > >JKA > >John Kirk-Anderson > >Banks Peninsula >New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Folks, Thanks for the info and suggestions on paddling destinations, Vancouver Island has certainly got a lot of votes from Paddlewisers. Now another question regarding WHEN to go. I had thought about coming up to do some paddling in September-ish before travelling. However, if I came over in August/September, travelled in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US with my wife, and then did a couple of weeks paddling to include the Lumpy Waters Symposium on the Oregon Coast in mid-October, http://www.lumpywaters.com/, would I be likely to have issues with holidays/seasons/bugs etc? I noted on the Lumpy Waters website that everyone was wearing a drysuit in October, I guess there's a good reason for that! Anyway, thanks for the advice. Cheers JKA Banks Peninsula New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
September is good. Kids are back to school and the 45-foot power boats are quiet. We wear drysuits all year round due to the cold water. Expect cool evenings and nights. We don't sit around on the beach til midnight in t-shirts and shorts. Even daytime temps can be cool; it's not uncommon to have a daytime high temp of 55F in August. Not many bugs though. While it can get hot in the summer it will still cool down at night; especially near the water. Bring gear for temp range of 4oF at night to 85F in the daytime but often much cooler in the day. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
John, It can be nice right through parts of October though anytime after September the bigger low pressure systems start to kick in without warning. Seas can be very calm in September with neutral gradients giving a calm to the PNW. Daylight availability does diminish with the advent of fall in general and temps do indeed grade downward meaning camp time isn't as hospitable. If it were me, I'd be paddling somewhere easy to access with known campsites the later into the fall I got. Didn't remember, if at all, what you had said about renting kayaks, etc., but let me know if you have specific questions. Cheers, Doug September is good. Kids are back to school and the 45-foot power boats are quiet. We wear drysuits all year round due to the cold water. Expect cool evenings and nights. We don't sit around on the beach til midnight in t-shirts and shorts. Even daytime temps can be cool; it's not uncommon to have a daytime high temp of 55F in August. Not many bugs though. While it can get hot in the summer it will still cool down at night; especially near the water. Bring gear for temp range of 4oF at night to 85F in the daytime but often much cooler in the day. Craig *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:35 PM, John Kirk-Anderson wrote: > Now another question regarding WHEN to go. I had thought about coming up to do some paddling in September-ish before travelling. > > However, if I came over in August/September, travelled in Canada, Alaska, and the northern US with my wife, and then did a couple of weeks paddling to include the Lumpy Waters Symposium on the Oregon Coast in mid-October, http://www.lumpywaters.com/, would I be likely to have issues with holidays/seasons/bugs etc? I cant speak as much for Vancouver Island as others, but I've yet to have any bug problems anywhere. I think for the most part you're looking at mosquitoes but in non epic quantities. Weather begins to change to wetter sometime around September for the region, again I don't know if that applies as clearly to Vancouver Island. It's worth while to investigate where rain shadows are. > I noted on the Lumpy Waters website that everyone was wearing a drysuit in October, I guess there's a good reason for that! Drysuits are pretty standard year round in if you're playing on the coast. Typically, at Lumpy Waters you'll get wet. Warren *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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