> My image of this is more like a pre plumbing person fetching water > with > a pail on each end of a shoulder pole, where for this analogy the > kayak > was the person carrying the water. > > My thought was to have them on a 6 foot (guess) rod across the cockpit > What kind of rod? It would have to be extendable so it could be stored and pretty strong to withstand leaning and such. Maybe the spare paddle? > area. Acting like sponsons. Instead of using air to hold the boat > upright using the weight of the water in the drogue to keep the boat > from > tipping. Having something like a 1 foot rope between the rod and the > drogue. One drogue on each side of the hull. > I think I see. The wide end would be attached to the rope/rod. When I lean on it the wide end will go into the water and the water weight will resist that pressure and act as floation. The small end would have to be pretty small or closed altogether to prevent the water from escaping as I'm pressing. > > Where you would get little drouges? > > They would be easy to make, basically just a wind sock, with the > escape > end narrower than the opening. If there were small lead weights > around the > small end opening of the drogue it would force the drogue open while > it hung > in the water. > I don't understand this. The small end would be hanging down so when I leaned on it, the drouge would be pushed down small end first. I would have to somehow get the large end facing down and by that time I'd be swimming again. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Clyde Sisler wrote: > > > My image of this is more like a pre plumbing person fetching water > > with > > a pail on each end of a shoulder pole, where for this analogy the > > kayak > > was the person carrying the water. > > > > My thought was to have them on a 6 foot (guess) rod across the cockpit > > > What kind of rod? It would have to be extendable so it could be > stored and pretty strong to withstand leaning and such. Maybe the spare > paddle? > > > area. Acting like sponsons. Instead of using air to hold the boat > > upright using the weight of the water in the drogue to keep the boat > > from > > tipping. Having something like a 1 foot rope between the rod and the > > drogue. One drogue on each side of the hull. > > > I think I see. The wide end would be attached to the rope/rod. > When I lean on it the wide end will go into the water and the water > weight will resist that pressure and act as floation. The small end > would have to be pretty small or closed altogether to prevent the water > from escaping as I'm pressing. > > > > Where you would get little drouges? > > > > They would be easy to make, basically just a wind sock, with the > > escape > > end narrower than the opening. If there were small lead weights > > around the > > small end opening of the drogue it would force the drogue open while > > it hung > > in the water. > > > I don't understand this. The small end would be hanging down so > when I leaned on it, the drouge would be pushed down small end first. I > would have to somehow get the large end facing down and by that time I'd > be swimming again. So, does anyone think they were only seeing half of a conversation ;-) I was replying directly to Clyde, and he was posting (unattributed) my responses. This started with Clyde admitting, privately, to having purchased a set of sponsons. I have been wondering if it might be possible to create a sponson alternative that worked on some of the principals of the "good" rescue raft that John Winters referred to back in the sponson/rescue raft thread. My thought was that instead of having an air filled sponson on each side of the boat utilize something similar to the water pockets on the bottom of a rescue raft. My initial thought was to build a pair of "water pockets", along the lines of a 3 foot long funnel, with a wide top and a narrow lower end, then add a few weights to the narrow end so that the "water pocket" hung vertically in the water. Then I thought this would work better if the water pockets could be deployed a couple feet from the boat - hence the 6 foot pole. So instead of having sponsons adjacent to the boat resisting a tip over by way of an air bladder, a tip over would be resisted by the weight of the water in the "water pockets" deployed parallel to the boat. kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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