> > Go to the WW shop and look for the adjustable hip pads that strap to > the > > sides of the seat with Velcro. They have a nylon pocket that you > shim to > > the right size with pieces of foam. Sorry I can't remember the brand > > name. > > > Saw them in the NOC store yesterday. Banshee hip pads (Banshee?) made > by > Planetarygear, which happens to have a web site called > www.planetarygear.com. > There's a picture of them in the NOC catalog. It looks like they have straps to slide around the sides of the seat. I don't have any sides so don't know how I'd secure them. :-( > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Short of hip implants, the best way I've found to get the nether regions firmly established in a sea kayak seat is to build up some hip pads with closed cell foam --- or pay three times as much and buy them pre-made at an REI or equivalent. You can shave them to fit your needs (as it were) with "dragon skin" for a comfortable fit, remembering that neoprene or a drysuit and insulation take up a bit more room in cooler weather. While gravity and friction will tend to keep you pretty well locked in while dry and upright, negative gravity and seawater as a lubricant make these things pretty easy to exit <in extremis>. Another thought is to glue down a piece of thin neoprene cut to butt characteristics --- if you're daring, sitting on a photocopier can generate a pretty good template --- with the nylon side down. Creates an anti-skid plate of sorts. But hip encapsulation in closed cell foam worked best for me. Joq *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Sisler, Clyde wrote: > > > > Go to the WW shop and look for the adjustable hip pads that strap to the > > > sides of the seat with Velcro. They have a nylon pocket that you shim to > > > the right size with pieces of foam. [snip] > There's a picture of them in the NOC catalog. It looks like > they have straps to slide around the sides of the seat. I don't have > any sides so don't know how I'd secure them. :-( If no vertical surfaces to either side of your seat, you may have to get some minicell foam and shape it to fill out the insides of the yak on either side of the hips. This will do the job without any nylon pocket thingies, though you could use the nylon pockets as a way of fine tuning the job. I get my minicell from the WW shops for about $8 per 3 in x 12 in x 12 in piece. It is easy to saw, carve, etc. There was an article in Sea Kayaker an issue or two ago on details. Also, there is a "tight cockpit" cult associated with WAKE (very active yak club in Bellingham, WA: http://www.memes.com/~temrich/wake.html). They have "cockpit parties" devoted to custom fitting the seat, etc. Some of the cult members subscribe to this list and will probably pick this up. <G> -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> cockpit" cult associated with WAKE (very active yak club in > Bellingham, > WA: http://www.memes.com/~temrich/wake.html). They have "cockpit > parties" devoted to custom fitting the seat, etc. Some of the cult > members subscribe to this list and will probably pick this up. <G> > Haven't been able to find that issue of SeaKayaker yet. Sounds like the kind of party I need. We're about the same lattitude, if not the same longitude (I'm in the Northeast). You must be out that way too. I got your response before I got my post. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Sisler, Clyde wrote: > > > there is a "tight cockpit" cult associated with WAKE (very active yak club in > > Bellingham, WA: http://www.memes.com/~temrich/wake.html).[snip] > > > Haven't been able to find the [pertinent] issue of SeaKayaker yet. It was sitting next to me as I posted the last round, if I had bothered to look -- must be lazy this morning. It is the February, 1998, issue, with author Ken Rasmussen, beginning on page 42. The part I had the most trouble with was in rough cutting the foam to shape. I used one of those collapsible Sven saws available at backpacking outlets. However, a short carpenter's saw with finer teeth such as pictured in the article would be better, I think, because the Sven saw's teeth are pretty coarse -- gives a cut surface which takes some work to smooth out. I just duct-taped mine in place, but contact cement of velcro would be better. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dave Kruger wrote: > > The part I had the most trouble with was in rough cutting the foam to > shape. I used one of those collapsible Sven saws available at > backpacking outlets. However, a short carpenter's saw with finer teeth > such as pictured in the article would be better, I think Actually, a finely serrated bread knife is better than a saw for cutting foam. Cut larger than you think you need and shape to fit with a Surform (TM) file or dragon skin. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Joq wrote: >a solid minicell block footrest Last weekend I replaced my minicell thigh braces and have been thinking of a different footrest. I like the idea of a minicell block footrest, unfortunately my Arctic Hawk has foam bulkheads which I would blow out if I exerted any pressure on them. I have thought about ww type footbraces, any thoughts about them, anybody using them? NOC use to carry the type that extends across the boat but I don't see them listed in their catalogue now. frank -*************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Frank Montbriand wrote: > Last weekend I replaced my minicell thigh braces and have been thinking of a > different footrest. I like the idea of a minicell block footrest, > unfortunately my Arctic Hawk has foam bulkheads which I would blow out if I > exerted any pressure on them. I have thought about ww type footbraces, any > thoughts about them, anybody using them? NOC use to carry the type that > extends across the boat but I don't see them listed in their catalogue now. You currently have "foot pedal" style footrests, yes? Pygmy Kayaks has access to some 2 inch thick, very firm (stiffer than minicell), polyethylene foam, which they cut up to make "push-in" bulkheads, sold as an accessory for their kits. I use one of these on my side (the "inside") of a sea sock, and push the arrangement up against the footrests, which are adjustable Keepers. This is VERY firm, and best thing I have run across. Don't know what their source is, but I suspect if you sent them a template of the shape you wanted, you could get it rough cut. Or, ask for a rectangle of apropos size. I think the chunk I ordered cost me $20 US. Here's Pygmy's URL: http://www.pygmyboats.com/index.htm -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
NOC sells the very stiff poly foam in 2" thick sheets. It's usefull for reinforcing glass seats, etc. cya Bob Denton President Gulf Stream International Sink the Stink - The Water Sports Deodorizer That Works! Boynton Beach, FL http://www.flinet.com/gulfstream/scuba.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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